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<blockquote data-quote="Al'Kelhar" data-source="post: 743570" data-attributes="member: 7884"><p>I am DMing a campaign in which possession by evil outsiders, using the rules on possession in the <em>Book of Vile Darkness</em>, will be relatively common. This had led me to thinking about the Sacred Exorcist prestige class as one which might be available to PCs in the campaign.</p><p></p><p>However, I have two questions about the Sacred Exorcist which I'd like the expert views of the En Worlders on.</p><p></p><p>First, the PrC seems a trifle unbalanced. Although a cleric would have to be 9th level before satisfying the requirements (see also the second question, below), the PrC grants +1 spell casting level per level and cumulative turn undead powers, as well as a number of PrC-specific additional abilities. In essence, a cleric who takes this PrC loses nothing and gains alot. Thus, for example, a Clr9/Sacred Exorcist 5 is more powerful than a Clr14, because she has the attack roll, hit points, saving throws, spell casting, and turn undead abilities of the Clr14, but has a few other nifty things too. Do you think the PrC should be toned down, and if so, how?</p><p></p><p>Second - and this might be <em>why</em> the PrC seems a little unbalanced - the prerequsites for the Sacred Exorcist requires 7 ranks in Knowledge (the planes). Knowledge (the planes) is a cross-class skill for a cleric. So, the cleric has to multiclass as a bard or wizard (or, IMC, a druid), cannot take the prestige class until she is at least an 11th level cleric, or alternatively, this requirement is an error (either 7 ranks is wrong, or the drafter of the PrC thought Knowledge (the planes) was a cleric class skill). As a solution to this problem (and as a matter of common sense), I'm thinking of making Knowledge (the planes) a class skill for clerics.</p><p></p><p>I am also thinking of making some other amendments to the PrC, as follows:</p><p></p><p><strong>Chosen Foe:</strong> If the character takes evil outsiders as her chosen foe, the chosen foe bonus is also added to the DC for an outsider's Hide check against detection spells cast by the character when the outsider is attempting to mask its presence from the character.</p><p></p><p><strong>Turning:</strong> If the character takes evil outsiders as her chosen foe, the character ceases to increase her ability to turn undead. However, she gains the ability to turn evil outsiders, much as a Knight of the Chalice can turn demons, i.e. use character level to determine maximum HD of outsider turned, use class level to determine number of HD turned.</p><p></p><p><strong>Bonus Feats:</strong> The character gains Extra Turning as a bonus feat at 3rd (class) level. This feat applies either to turning undead, or turning evil outsiders, depending on the character's chosen foe.</p><p></p><p>At 6th, and again at 9th, (class) level, the character gains a bonus feat which is either Extra Turning or one of the Divine feats from <em>Defenders of the Faith</em>. In the latter case, if the character has chosen evil outsiders as her chosen foe, and has taken a Divine feat which affects undead, it would instead affect evil outsiders.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts or comments?</p><p></p><p>Cheers, Al'Kelhar</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Al'Kelhar, post: 743570, member: 7884"] I am DMing a campaign in which possession by evil outsiders, using the rules on possession in the [I]Book of Vile Darkness[/I], will be relatively common. This had led me to thinking about the Sacred Exorcist prestige class as one which might be available to PCs in the campaign. However, I have two questions about the Sacred Exorcist which I'd like the expert views of the En Worlders on. First, the PrC seems a trifle unbalanced. Although a cleric would have to be 9th level before satisfying the requirements (see also the second question, below), the PrC grants +1 spell casting level per level and cumulative turn undead powers, as well as a number of PrC-specific additional abilities. In essence, a cleric who takes this PrC loses nothing and gains alot. Thus, for example, a Clr9/Sacred Exorcist 5 is more powerful than a Clr14, because she has the attack roll, hit points, saving throws, spell casting, and turn undead abilities of the Clr14, but has a few other nifty things too. Do you think the PrC should be toned down, and if so, how? Second - and this might be [I]why[/I] the PrC seems a little unbalanced - the prerequsites for the Sacred Exorcist requires 7 ranks in Knowledge (the planes). Knowledge (the planes) is a cross-class skill for a cleric. So, the cleric has to multiclass as a bard or wizard (or, IMC, a druid), cannot take the prestige class until she is at least an 11th level cleric, or alternatively, this requirement is an error (either 7 ranks is wrong, or the drafter of the PrC thought Knowledge (the planes) was a cleric class skill). As a solution to this problem (and as a matter of common sense), I'm thinking of making Knowledge (the planes) a class skill for clerics. I am also thinking of making some other amendments to the PrC, as follows: [B]Chosen Foe:[/B] If the character takes evil outsiders as her chosen foe, the chosen foe bonus is also added to the DC for an outsider's Hide check against detection spells cast by the character when the outsider is attempting to mask its presence from the character. [B]Turning:[/B] If the character takes evil outsiders as her chosen foe, the character ceases to increase her ability to turn undead. However, she gains the ability to turn evil outsiders, much as a Knight of the Chalice can turn demons, i.e. use character level to determine maximum HD of outsider turned, use class level to determine number of HD turned. [B]Bonus Feats:[/B] The character gains Extra Turning as a bonus feat at 3rd (class) level. This feat applies either to turning undead, or turning evil outsiders, depending on the character's chosen foe. At 6th, and again at 9th, (class) level, the character gains a bonus feat which is either Extra Turning or one of the Divine feats from [I]Defenders of the Faith[/I]. In the latter case, if the character has chosen evil outsiders as her chosen foe, and has taken a Divine feat which affects undead, it would instead affect evil outsiders. Any thoughts or comments? Cheers, Al'Kelhar [/QUOTE]
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