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Message: <blockquote data-quote="magnas_veritas" data-source="post: 743636" data-attributes="member: 9524">Especially since there's that nifty Consecrated Presence power at 5th level, so the vile damage is no longer quite as irritating.  Not particularly, but I can see how one might think that.  The PC's having to either eat one of his precious feats, multi-class for a few levels*, or buy K (Planes) cross-class for a few levels...when the cleric gets very few skill points anyway.  Also, remember that Special requirement, which means the player needs to roleplay appropriately.  I'd say those balance out the specialized bonuses the Excorcist gets.* - My character who's heading into Excorcist ducked into Witch Hunter from OA for three levels; it fit thematically, gave good base attack, better skills, and he picked up Divine Grace and Aura of Courage.  That's possible, and one that's fairly player-friendly.  It does depend on your view of clerics, though; K (Religion) gives the party line, and they may not want to learn anything else.  Demon?  Enemy.  Eladrin?  Needs disciplining.  Any plane that's not connected to (insert deity's name here)?  Bunch of useless heathen.That's workable.  As it stands, there's no reason not to choose Evil Outsider as the chosen foe...you get that bonus to spell penetration, after all, and outsiders have SR more often than undead.Brad</blockquote>