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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2345053" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>Ok. I see from the section of SRD you quoted that you can make a scroll of Empowered Fireball. I don't see the argument that proves that a wizard can use it. "Empowered Fireball" is not on the wizard spell list. If it does count as being on the wizard spell list, then why can't the wizard learn it? I.e. he should be able to write "Empowered Fireball" in his spell book, and use it to prepare an empowered fireball. He wouldn't be able to prepare a normal fireball, or empower anything else. But if he learns the formula, including the "weird stuff" he should be able to replicate the scroll at his convenience. (Assume he's at least 9th level.)</p><p></p><p>So two questions: how do you know that a wizard can use a scroll of empowered fireball if "empowered fireball" is not on the wizard spell list? If it counts as being on his list, why can't he learn it as a spell in its own right?</p><p></p><p>I don't really think you are wrong; I just don't see how the RAW prevent a wizard from learning a metamagicked spell as if it were Abenezer's Inflation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 2345053, member: 141"] Ok. I see from the section of SRD you quoted that you can make a scroll of Empowered Fireball. I don't see the argument that proves that a wizard can use it. "Empowered Fireball" is not on the wizard spell list. If it does count as being on the wizard spell list, then why can't the wizard learn it? I.e. he should be able to write "Empowered Fireball" in his spell book, and use it to prepare an empowered fireball. He wouldn't be able to prepare a normal fireball, or empower anything else. But if he learns the formula, including the "weird stuff" he should be able to replicate the scroll at his convenience. (Assume he's at least 9th level.) So two questions: how do you know that a wizard can use a scroll of empowered fireball if "empowered fireball" is not on the wizard spell list? If it counts as being on his list, why can't he learn it as a spell in its own right? I don't really think you are wrong; I just don't see how the RAW prevent a wizard from learning a metamagicked spell as if it were Abenezer's Inflation. [/QUOTE]
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