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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5158980" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Normally, the conditions for having cover or concealment is relative to who you're hiding from. If you're ducking behind a wall, but the person you're trying to hide from is on that same side of the wall somewhere behind you...you don't have the cover to hide from him. But Hide in Plain Sight is different. All it requires is the existence of a shadow nearby, other than your own, and you can hide. Even if enemies are looking <strong>right at you</strong>. Hide in Plain Sight spits in the face of the enemy creatures' perception, it doesn't matter.</p><p> </p><p>How about a more cynical answer?</p><p>PC: "That NPC can't see the shadow i want to hide with?"</p><p>DM: "Nope."</p><p>PC: "Awesome, I blend into the shadow that you just admitted the NPC can't see, and thus he can no longer see me either."</p><p>DM: "That fluff description of the ability sounds a little beyond the mundane..."</p><p>Player: "Lucky that it's a supernatural ability then, isn't it?"</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p>If a party of PCs can't perceive an ethereal creature that is in the room but is in no way interacting with them, does the ethereal creature exist?</p><p></p><p>Or the more classic question; If a tree falls in the forest, but no one is around to see or hear it...no, sorry. There's no issue that's up for debate. A tree <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing fell, it really doesn't matter if <em>you</em>, Mr. Oh-so-important-my-perception-is-the-dealbreaker, noticed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5158980, member: 35909"] Normally, the conditions for having cover or concealment is relative to who you're hiding from. If you're ducking behind a wall, but the person you're trying to hide from is on that same side of the wall somewhere behind you...you don't have the cover to hide from him. But Hide in Plain Sight is different. All it requires is the existence of a shadow nearby, other than your own, and you can hide. Even if enemies are looking [b]right at you[/b]. Hide in Plain Sight spits in the face of the enemy creatures' perception, it doesn't matter. How about a more cynical answer? PC: "That NPC can't see the shadow i want to hide with?" DM: "Nope." PC: "Awesome, I blend into the shadow that you just admitted the NPC can't see, and thus he can no longer see me either." DM: "That fluff description of the ability sounds a little beyond the mundane..." Player: "Lucky that it's a supernatural ability then, isn't it?" Yes. If a party of PCs can't perceive an ethereal creature that is in the room but is in no way interacting with them, does the ethereal creature exist? Or the more classic question; If a tree falls in the forest, but no one is around to see or hear it...no, sorry. There's no issue that's up for debate. A tree :):):):)ing fell, it really doesn't matter if [i]you[/i], Mr. Oh-so-important-my-perception-is-the-dealbreaker, noticed. [/QUOTE]
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