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<blockquote data-quote="Nonei" data-source="post: 5159974" data-attributes="member: 88176"><p>You're right: it is specific in what it can and cannot do. Just because it lists examples, however, doesn't means those examples are inclusive of all cases unless it says so. What it says is:</p><p> </p><p> then it goes on to list the exceptions: </p><p>The subject sees all things as they actually are - as in, as they would be if there were no magic (or normal darkness) involved. The spell does not list anything that is not mundane in the exceptions.</p><p> </p><p>Since HiPS is supernatural - and hence magical - and does not include using a solid object, I would rulein my game that true seeing trumps it regardless of the shadows argument. As for the shadows argument... I'd probably rule that since HiPS uses a shadow, if a creature cannot see the shadow then you're just out of luck (against that creature).</p><p> </p><p>Of course, others may rule differently. It does seem like HiPS could have been worded a bit better especially relating to darkvision and true seeing. They're not exactly obscure things in D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nonei, post: 5159974, member: 88176"] You're right: it is specific in what it can and cannot do. Just because it lists examples, however, doesn't means those examples are inclusive of all cases unless it says so. What it says is: then it goes on to list the exceptions: The subject sees all things as they actually are - as in, as they would be if there were no magic (or normal darkness) involved. The spell does not list anything that is not mundane in the exceptions. Since HiPS is supernatural - and hence magical - and does not include using a solid object, I would rulein my game that true seeing trumps it regardless of the shadows argument. As for the shadows argument... I'd probably rule that since HiPS uses a shadow, if a creature cannot see the shadow then you're just out of luck (against that creature). Of course, others may rule differently. It does seem like HiPS could have been worded a bit better especially relating to darkvision and true seeing. They're not exactly obscure things in D&D. [/QUOTE]
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