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<blockquote data-quote="Cloudgatherer" data-source="post: 13639" data-attributes="member: 66">Personally, I think the spellfire abilities are pretty weak.A spellfire wielder can hold up to his Con in spellfire levels.&nbsp; Big deal.&nbsp; At low levels, assuming a powergamer, a spellfire wielder can blow things away, but maybe only once before he/she is out of spellfire levels.&nbsp; Perhaps the nifty ability with spellfire is its healing ability:&nbsp; 2 points per level.&nbsp; It's not much, but it could potentially save a party member's life.At the high end (Spellfire Channeller PrC), it's still pretty weak.&nbsp; How many creatures are going to fail a reflex save of DC 20?&nbsp; Not a whole lot.&nbsp; Even still, despite having 4 or 5 times your Con in spellfire levels, the higher abilities cost an astounding amout to use:&nbsp; 10 spellfire levels per round.&nbsp; Ouch.&nbsp; And if you want to attack, you can only expend up to your Con in spellfire levels per round.&nbsp; Double ouch.&nbsp; That's 18d6 damage, assuming you have the spellfire levels, can hit your target, and the target can always make a reflex save (or worse have evasion).While spellfire can be a devastating ability, I tend to think of it as a watered down wizard or sorcerer.&nbsp; At some point, the character simply runs out of juice and must fall back on whatever class he/she took.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cloudgatherer, post: 13639, member: 66"] Personally, I think the spellfire abilities are pretty weak. A spellfire wielder can hold up to his Con in spellfire levels. Big deal. At low levels, assuming a powergamer, a spellfire wielder can blow things away, but maybe only once before he/she is out of spellfire levels. Perhaps the nifty ability with spellfire is its healing ability: 2 points per level. It's not much, but it could potentially save a party member's life. At the high end (Spellfire Channeller PrC), it's still pretty weak. How many creatures are going to fail a reflex save of DC 20? Not a whole lot. Even still, despite having 4 or 5 times your Con in spellfire levels, the higher abilities cost an astounding amout to use: 10 spellfire levels per round. Ouch. And if you want to attack, you can only expend up to your Con in spellfire levels per round. Double ouch. That's 18d6 damage, assuming you have the spellfire levels, can hit your target, and the target can always make a reflex save (or worse have evasion). While spellfire can be a devastating ability, I tend to think of it as a watered down wizard or sorcerer. At some point, the character simply runs out of juice and must fall back on whatever class he/she took. [/QUOTE]

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