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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5778257" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>You said that "<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/5777131-post26.html" target="_blank">[Upper_Krust] shouldn't insist that there are no problems.</a>" Which is another way of saying he said it's perfect. If you don't like the words in your mouth, I suggest you don't speak them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No more than how suspiciously reluctant you are to go to the exact sub-forum and look for them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's a sub-forum here; certainly smaller than the one we're posting in now. Likewise, you wouldn't have to look very hard there, since there are plenty of people posting about their experiences with the book, which are positive, there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow is this the pot calling the kettle black.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You haven't provided evidence for any of the claims you made, except to say that because something went a certain way for your group, it's that way for everyone, which isn't evidence at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is not only solipsistic, it's also completely erroneous to claim that something had to be without house rules entirely to work. House rules can exist for a lot of different reasons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Did you ever read the quotes I provided above? Live, ever? They pretty well tear your argument about balance to shreds. Clearly, the person asking if I've ever played an RPG has never done so himself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And I'm pointing out that even if that's true, that's your tiny snapshot of such a small sub-set of players as to be barely anecdotal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm saying that the character isn't "bad" by any measure except the one that the players and GM choose to apply at a given time. That character might be perfect for the game they're playing - since you're not there, how would you know? Answer: you wouldn't.</p><p></p><p>Also, Challenge Rating is a relative measure of power based around how challenging they'd be in combat. If you don't realize that CR is more of an art than a science, then I'm not surprised at the assumptions you've been spouting.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, how about you give U_K a couple million United States Dollars, a huge pool of artists, editors, etc. and then make a comparison that isn't apples-to-oranges. Likewise, your hyperbole of "plaging nearly every page" is childish.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You do realize that there was an Epic Bestiary, right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>None of the issues you're mentioning have anything to do with anything, insofar as I can tell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's cute that you keep holding U_K up to the same standards at the people who made D&D 3E and 4E, really I do, but it's more accurate to compare him to other small press publishers. In which case, the issue with his other books is more akin to the Kargatane's release of <em>Death Undaunted</em> (look it up).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wow, you must hate Kickstarter with a vengeance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Spoken like someone with a lot of publishing experience in regards to layout. That was sarcastic, by the way.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I seem to be unable to muster any vitriol over it, though you certainly have enough for the both of us and then some.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You do realize that under the scenario you're positing, you're the guy who comes back <em>years</em> later and starts screaming about it in the lobby, and has the be publicly calmed down by a police officer...and then <em>still</em> won't stop harassing people about it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Believe me, there's plenty of people in this thread who've already made it clear that they'd like you to stop talking about the book entirely, since you can't seem to do anything other than rant. Likewise, if you think that you're not talking about the things you don't like, I direct you to your own previous posts.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you feel it's fun to be rude to other people online, that's your prerogative. I find it fun to show how you're wrong to do so.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 5778257, member: 8461"] You said that "[url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/5777131-post26.html][Upper_Krust] shouldn't insist that there are no problems.[/url]" Which is another way of saying he said it's perfect. If you don't like the words in your mouth, I suggest you don't speak them. No more than how suspiciously reluctant you are to go to the exact sub-forum and look for them. It's a sub-forum here; certainly smaller than the one we're posting in now. Likewise, you wouldn't have to look very hard there, since there are plenty of people posting about their experiences with the book, which are positive, there. Wow is this the pot calling the kettle black. You haven't provided evidence for any of the claims you made, except to say that because something went a certain way for your group, it's that way for everyone, which isn't evidence at all. This is not only solipsistic, it's also completely erroneous to claim that something had to be without house rules entirely to work. House rules can exist for a lot of different reasons. Did you ever read the quotes I provided above? Live, ever? They pretty well tear your argument about balance to shreds. Clearly, the person asking if I've ever played an RPG has never done so himself. And I'm pointing out that even if that's true, that's your tiny snapshot of such a small sub-set of players as to be barely anecdotal. I'm saying that the character isn't "bad" by any measure except the one that the players and GM choose to apply at a given time. That character might be perfect for the game they're playing - since you're not there, how would you know? Answer: you wouldn't. Also, Challenge Rating is a relative measure of power based around how challenging they'd be in combat. If you don't realize that CR is more of an art than a science, then I'm not surprised at the assumptions you've been spouting. Yeah, how about you give U_K a couple million United States Dollars, a huge pool of artists, editors, etc. and then make a comparison that isn't apples-to-oranges. Likewise, your hyperbole of "plaging nearly every page" is childish. You do realize that there was an Epic Bestiary, right? None of the issues you're mentioning have anything to do with anything, insofar as I can tell. I think it's cute that you keep holding U_K up to the same standards at the people who made D&D 3E and 4E, really I do, but it's more accurate to compare him to other small press publishers. In which case, the issue with his other books is more akin to the Kargatane's release of [i]Death Undaunted[/i] (look it up). Wow, you must hate Kickstarter with a vengeance. Spoken like someone with a lot of publishing experience in regards to layout. That was sarcastic, by the way. I seem to be unable to muster any vitriol over it, though you certainly have enough for the both of us and then some. You do realize that under the scenario you're positing, you're the guy who comes back [i]years[/i] later and starts screaming about it in the lobby, and has the be publicly calmed down by a police officer...and then [i]still[/i] won't stop harassing people about it? Believe me, there's plenty of people in this thread who've already made it clear that they'd like you to stop talking about the book entirely, since you can't seem to do anything other than rant. Likewise, if you think that you're not talking about the things you don't like, I direct you to your own previous posts. If you feel it's fun to be rude to other people online, that's your prerogative. I find it fun to show how you're wrong to do so. [/QUOTE]
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