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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Uller" data-source="post: 6883858" data-attributes="member: 413">As always...reading some of these stealth threads, it's like some folks never played hide n' seek as a kid or never snuck up on someone to startle them as a prank.  Being stealthy isn't hard.  It isn't some supernatural ability and you can easily do it even in broad daylight and even if your target has line of sight to you.  All it takes is a little bit of awareness of your surroundings and understanding the state of mind of your target.  When I was a kid we used to play a game similar to hide and seek except the hiders had to get to a tree or post before being spotted.  The person that was 'it' had a certain amount of time to find everyone.  It required you not just hide, but move and observe not only the person who was it, but the other players as well to take advantage of what was happening around you.Here's ET hiding in plain sight:[ATTACH]76420[/ATTACH]In this scene the mom didn't spot ET because it did not occur to her that it would be possible for there to be a real live alien hiding among the stuffed animals.  ET took advantage of this.  He stayed still and beat her passive perception check.  Very often being stealthy just means keeping your eye on your target and moving when it isn't observing you and getting behind a bit of concealment or in a shadow when it is.  Last night I was reading a bit before bed.  One of my children was playing quietly on the floor.  An older child came into the room quietly, waited for the younger one to be distracted with a toy and moved quickly behind her and ROARRED and tickled her making her scream and laugh.  The older one had her back to me. So I quietly stood up, waited for her to be laughing then did the same to her.  Is this not what the stealth rules are meant to cover?   If you are interpreting the rules in a way that makes the features of many classes useless (not to mention, makes it impossible to do something that normal every day people do routinely), you might be being a wee bit too literal.</blockquote>

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