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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6883862" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p><img src="https://wronghands1.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/can-of-worms.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Stealth requires that you be unseen. Typically, this means invisible, or behind total cover, or in a space that is totally concealed. A blinded enemy can't see you, either.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It doesn't - if you can be seen, your stealth breaks. If you move while stealthing, you must remain unseen from those you are stealthing from. Whenever they get line of sight, your stealth is over.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If the invisibility is stripped off, he's immediately revealed. "At night" isn't enough concealment to be unseen typically. If the guards were blinded or if the rogue was behind a wall or something, though, the rogue could keep stealth. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Basically a DM judgement call - if the rogue can be seen, stealth ends. I'd probably allow a rogue to stealth in this circumstance with the usual trust that most folks don't habitually look up on roofs, but if the enemies are expecting an ambush or something, I might rule differently. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The big things is that <strong>if you can be seen, you cannot be hidden</strong>. Sometimes, the rules are explicit about if you can be seen - you can be seen in dim light, for instance. Sometimes, the situation is a bit more up to DM judgement - are the guards distracted and talking among themselves so they don't see you sneak up behind them? Maybe. The DM ruling wasn't wrong in either situation, because if someone is looking at you, you aren't hidden from them. </p><p></p><p>The DM's judgement call is whether or not someone is looking at you when it's ambiguous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6883862, member: 2067"] [IMG]https://wronghands1.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/can-of-worms.jpg[/IMG] Stealth requires that you be unseen. Typically, this means invisible, or behind total cover, or in a space that is totally concealed. A blinded enemy can't see you, either. It doesn't - if you can be seen, your stealth breaks. If you move while stealthing, you must remain unseen from those you are stealthing from. Whenever they get line of sight, your stealth is over. If the invisibility is stripped off, he's immediately revealed. "At night" isn't enough concealment to be unseen typically. If the guards were blinded or if the rogue was behind a wall or something, though, the rogue could keep stealth. Basically a DM judgement call - if the rogue can be seen, stealth ends. I'd probably allow a rogue to stealth in this circumstance with the usual trust that most folks don't habitually look up on roofs, but if the enemies are expecting an ambush or something, I might rule differently. The big things is that [B]if you can be seen, you cannot be hidden[/B]. Sometimes, the rules are explicit about if you can be seen - you can be seen in dim light, for instance. Sometimes, the situation is a bit more up to DM judgement - are the guards distracted and talking among themselves so they don't see you sneak up behind them? Maybe. The DM ruling wasn't wrong in either situation, because if someone is looking at you, you aren't hidden from them. The DM's judgement call is whether or not someone is looking at you when it's ambiguous. [/QUOTE]
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