D&D 5E Questions very complex about SPELLS !! HELP !!!!

[Paraxis]

I see no logic in it!

I don't think it is supposed to be logical, it is supposed to serve a function in the rules, and we are seeing an odd interaction.

The limit on Bonus Action spells is to prevent powerful unforeseen combinations, they have learned from the past that letting full spell casters get two full effect spells off on their turn can be game breaking.

The ability to use your Reaction to cast spells like counterspell are in place to for the spell to work as it is intended and for what I think cool exchanges between spell casters having a duel of sorts.

I think they should change the wording on Bonus Action spellcasting to "The only spell you can cast with your Spellcasting action on the same turn you cast a bonus action casting time spell is a cantrip." That way it wouldn't stop the I used my reaction to cast a spell now I can't cast a bonus action spell issue.

 

[miniaturehoarder]

Turn ≠ Round
Round begins: Someone else's turn begins
Someone else's turn ends: your turn begins & your Actions Refresh
Bonus action Spell=Can't cast any spell higher than a cantrip on that (your) turn.
Turn ends: Someone else's turn begins
All turns taken: Round ends

 

[Ravenheart87]

Stop complaining and answer.

Your writing style imrpoved, well done. Now let's practice some attitude...

 

[GlobeOfDankness]

I have the original books !!!!

i'm sure you do. the question is how you transfer them from the physical page to the digital screen so neatly and with copy+paste artifacts.

and as for your further confusion, i'm sorry we couldn't help you, but i feel like we've done our best to explain the rules in the book. the best part of dnd is that if you don't agree with what's written, you're free to do whatever makes sense to you. you can say all 9th level spells are cast via a game of tic-tac-toe.

 

[Morrus]

Stop complaining and answer.

This is not an appropriate way to talk to other members on EN World.

 

[Morrus]

Your writing style imrpoved, well done. Now let's practice some attitude...

Leave it to the moderators, please.

 

[Dausuul]

1) Can I use the same turn my, one Action Spell and one Reaction Spell ?

Yes.

2) Can I use the same turn mine, one Bonus Action Spell and one Reaction Spell ?

Technically, no, unless the reaction spell is a cantrip (and I don't think there are any cantrips you can cast as reactions).

However, as DM I would allow this. The rules around bonus action spells don't make a lot of sense IMO. I would change them to read: "You can't cast two non-cantrip, non-reaction spells on the same turn." Much simpler and more intuitive*.

[SIZE=-2]*Although it does mean you can't multiclass fighter and use Action Surge to double-cast. Boo freakin' hoo.[/SIZE]

3) If a Wizard cast Sunbean Spell (action), and the enemy sorcerer cast Counterspell (reaction), a second Wizard, Wizard ally who cast the Sunbean, can cast one Counsterspell (reaction) to bar conusterspell the enemy Wizard?

Yes.

4) If a Wizard cast Sunbean Spell (action), and the enemy sorcerer cast Counterspell, the same Wizard can use your reaction to cast Counsterspell to bar conusterspell the enemy Wizard? If he can do it, lose or not Sunbean Spell?

Yes, you can counterspell the enemy's counterspell. If you do, the original sunbeam spell takes effect as normal.

 

[aramis erak]

How are you pasting out of the PHB? i thought WotC didn't release any official PDFs. i sure hope you haven't pirated them as that would be very low given how much you obviously enjoy the game.

FYI, all the non-race, non-class rules from the PHB are in the Player's Basic Rules. It's word-for-word identical body text in Part 2. IIRC, one of the sidebars is missing.

Further, a significant number of people have purchased the rulebooks and found pirate scans so that they can search the rulebooks easier, and cut and paste answers without retyping.

Others, a smaller lot, have legitimately "format shifted" their own books by scanning and OCRing them themselves. There is legitimate allowance for format shifting, at least in the US; it's explicitly allowed by US federal regulation. (At least for the next year; those regs get reviewed and revised every three years.)

Further, just because someone posts OCRed text, one cannot presume that they have gone the pirate route, nor even the full scan route; my tablet came with image-and-ocr capability. It's now pretty trivial to get readable OCR out.

 

[GlobeOfDankness]

FYI, all the non-race, non-class rules from the PHB are in the Player's Basic Rules. It's word-for-word identical body text in Part 2. IIRC, one of the sidebars is missing.

Further, a significant number of people have purchased the rulebooks and found pirate scans so that they can search the rulebooks easier, and cut and paste answers without retyping.

Others, a smaller lot, have legitimately "format shifted" their own books by scanning and OCRing them themselves. There is legitimate allowance for format shifting, at least in the US; it's explicitly allowed by US federal regulation. (At least for the next year; those regs get reviewed and revised every three years.)

Further, just because someone posts OCRed text, one cannot presume that they have gone the pirate route, nor even the full scan route; my tablet came with image-and-ocr capability. It's now pretty trivial to get readable OCR out.

you make your assumptions and i'll make mine.