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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 2023897" data-attributes="member: 707">Martin has set up a lot of characters for possible surprise comebacks from supposed deaths.&nbsp; Invariably, some of them will come back, and others won't.&nbsp; It seems fairly clear that Theon is one of these possible comebacks, but whether he's one of those whom Martin actually brings back, or one of those who actually stays dead/missing, remains to be seen.Character-wise I'm not sure how much redemption there is in Theon Greyjoy.&nbsp; He had a lot of psychological baggage which made him interesting, but which would require a lot of serious work to crawl out from under.&nbsp; And now that Ned and Balon are both dead, it's even harder.&nbsp; How can he learn what his problem is, when the source of it is gone?&nbsp; How can a person be &quot;redeemed&quot; from a parentless childhood?No, I think that, for better or for worse, Theon is what he is.&nbsp; That doesn't mean he won't come back.&nbsp; Williams' Cadrach was never redeemed either, and yet had a significant role to play in Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn, as did an unredeemed Gollum in The Lord of the Rings.&nbsp; Theon may yet have a role.But I don't think redemption is it.&nbsp; Look to Jaime Lannister for that, or Tyrion, or the Hound, all of which have aspects of that theme running through their stories.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 2023897, member: 707"] Martin has set up a lot of characters for possible surprise comebacks from supposed deaths. Invariably, some of them will come back, and others won't. It seems fairly clear that Theon is one of these possible comebacks, but whether he's one of those whom Martin actually brings back, or one of those who actually stays dead/missing, remains to be seen. Character-wise I'm not sure how much redemption there is in Theon Greyjoy. He had a lot of psychological baggage which made him interesting, but which would require a lot of serious work to crawl out from under. And now that Ned and Balon are both dead, it's even harder. How can he learn what his problem is, when the source of it is gone? How can a person be "redeemed" from a parentless childhood? No, I think that, for better or for worse, Theon is what he is. That doesn't mean he won't come back. Williams' Cadrach was never redeemed either, and yet had a significant role to play in [i]Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn[/i], as did an unredeemed Gollum in [i]The Lord of the Rings[/i]. Theon may yet have a role. But I don't think redemption is it. Look to Jaime Lannister for that, or Tyrion, or the Hound, all of which have aspects of that theme running through their stories. [/QUOTE]

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