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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KnowTheToe" data-source="post: 2029103" data-attributes="member: 1961"><p>I don't disagree that he has some redeeming to do, it is just significanly less than many other characters.  I was trying, albiet poorly, to state that he has a long history of good intentions.  From visiting The Wall and helping them, to designing a special saddle for Bran, to finding ways to help the people of Kingsport while sitting as the Hand, he is one of the few characters who has really stepped up for others.  Heck, in these books, even when Tyrion ordered his soldiers not to rape people it is almost heroic.  He is desperate for recognition from his father, and is always aware of the balance of power within his family, but it is not until after the battle of Kingsport, the return of is father and the total lack of repect from his father for the job Tyrion did as the hand that Tyrion cracks.  And what a crack it was, like you said it will take much more than a few Hail Marys to make up for the mess he created.  It is the thread of the book I am most interested in picking back up.</p></blockquote><p></p>