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<blockquote data-quote="Taren Seeker" data-source="post: 374067" data-attributes="member: 615">The Sage reply is interesting...and ultimately I disagree with it in some key points. Maze actually removes you to a pocket plane, which means that the magic directly affects you. By this logic something like Solid Fog would affect the Golem, which I can't see as the magic immunity ability is pretty clearly written.I agree with your thinking on Wall of Iron, but I think for different reasons.The flaming question is tricky. I don't think that everything in 3e can be fit into Su, Sp and Ex. The sword generating the flame would be magical and would be suppressed in an AMF, but is the flame itself magical? I'm not sure. I do know that the Sp, Su and Ex tags apply to creatures as opposed to objects, and since unintelligent magic items don't fit into these definitions I would allow it to affect a Golem. (Provided they do not have energy resistance as well)It seems to work well within the SR, DR, ER framework.Besides, the above from the Sage would mean that SR affects a holy or flaming weapon. I don't see that as consistent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Taren Seeker, post: 374067, member: 615"] The Sage reply is interesting...and ultimately I disagree with it in some key points. Maze actually removes you to a pocket plane, which means that the magic directly affects you. By this logic something like Solid Fog would affect the Golem, which I can't see as the magic immunity ability is pretty clearly written. I agree with your thinking on Wall of Iron, but I think for different reasons. The flaming question is tricky. I don't think that everything in 3e can be fit into Su, Sp and Ex. The sword generating the flame would be magical and would be suppressed in an AMF, but is the flame itself magical? I'm not sure. I do know that the Sp, Su and Ex tags apply to creatures as opposed to objects, and since unintelligent magic items don't fit into these definitions I would allow it to affect a Golem. (Provided they do not have energy resistance as well) It seems to work well within the SR, DR, ER framework. Besides, the above from the Sage would mean that SR affects a holy or flaming weapon. I don't see that as consistent. [/QUOTE]

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