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<blockquote data-quote="gfunk" data-source="post: 532005" data-attributes="member: 1813"><p>You are mistaking the type Outsider with the term extraplanar.</p><p></p><p>The examples that you cited -- a being originally from Plane X travelling to Plane Y is an example of a creature considered extraplanar while he is on Plane Y.</p><p></p><p>Thus, the extraplanar creature is subject to spells like Holy Word, Dismissal, Banishment, etc. </p><p></p><p>Outsider is merely a type which means a being not native to the Prime Material Plane or the Elemental Planes. However, this is not a strict definition, because it may also mean magical in nature. For instance, Monks and some Prestige Classes become Outsiders when they hit the end of their level advancement.</p><p></p><p>This may help clear things up:</p><p></p><p>Example #1</p><p>Human Wizard native to the Prime plane shifts to the Abyss</p><p></p><p>His type is Humanoid but his status is extraplanar. Therefore he may be sent back to the Prime if a Demon casts Blasphemy on him. Additionally, an abyssal being can send him back to the Prime via Dismissal or Banishment. In addition he is still subject to the spells which affect humanoids specifically (e.g. Charm Person).</p><p></p><p>Example #2</p><p>A Pit Fiend in the Nine Hells (where it is a native) is attacked by foes from the Prime who have entered its dominion</p><p></p><p>The Pit Fiend's type is Outsider but its status is native. Therefore, although it may be deafend by a Holy Word spell it would not be banished as it already is on its home plane. However, it is not subject to spells that specifically affect Humanoids (e.g. Hold Monster)</p><p></p><p>Hope that clears things up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gfunk, post: 532005, member: 1813"] You are mistaking the type Outsider with the term extraplanar. The examples that you cited -- a being originally from Plane X travelling to Plane Y is an example of a creature considered extraplanar while he is on Plane Y. Thus, the extraplanar creature is subject to spells like Holy Word, Dismissal, Banishment, etc. Outsider is merely a type which means a being not native to the Prime Material Plane or the Elemental Planes. However, this is not a strict definition, because it may also mean magical in nature. For instance, Monks and some Prestige Classes become Outsiders when they hit the end of their level advancement. This may help clear things up: Example #1 Human Wizard native to the Prime plane shifts to the Abyss His type is Humanoid but his status is extraplanar. Therefore he may be sent back to the Prime if a Demon casts Blasphemy on him. Additionally, an abyssal being can send him back to the Prime via Dismissal or Banishment. In addition he is still subject to the spells which affect humanoids specifically (e.g. Charm Person). Example #2 A Pit Fiend in the Nine Hells (where it is a native) is attacked by foes from the Prime who have entered its dominion The Pit Fiend's type is Outsider but its status is native. Therefore, although it may be deafend by a Holy Word spell it would not be banished as it already is on its home plane. However, it is not subject to spells that specifically affect Humanoids (e.g. Hold Monster) Hope that clears things up. [/QUOTE]
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