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<blockquote data-quote="Cthulhudrew" data-source="post: 534409" data-attributes="member: 4090">&gt;Example #1&gt;Human Wizard native to the Prime plane shifts to the Abyss&gt;&gt;His type is Humanoid but his status is extraplanar. Therefore he &gt;may be sent back to the Prime if a Demon casts Blasphemy on &gt;him. Additionally, an abyssal being can send him back to the &gt;Prime via Dismissal or Banishment. In addition he is still subject &gt;to the spells which affect humanoids specifically (e.g. Charm &gt;Person).&gt;&gt;Example #2&gt;A Pit Fiend in the Nine Hells (where it is a native) is attacked by &gt;foes from the Prime who have entered its dominion&gt;&gt;The Pit Fiend's type is Outsider but its status is native. &gt;Therefore, although it may be deafend by a Holy Word spell it &gt;would not be banished as it already is on its home plane. &gt;However, it is not subject to spells that specifically affect &gt;Humanoids (e.g. Hold Monster)Okay, this is useful, and may be exactly the solution I was looking for. Maybe you can help me a little further. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Say I've got a cosmology essentially similar to the Doppel Cosmology in the MotP- two Prime Materials, somewhat different from one another, which occasionally interact. By your example, then, a humanoid from either Prime would be the Humanoid type, but would follow the rules from Example #1 above when traveling to the other Prime, but a Balor would be an Outsider type and would be extraplanar when visiting either Prime, but would follow the rules for Example #2 when on its native plane. Essentially then, the stats for creatures from the Alternate Prime (which is where I'm ultimately heading, here) would simply list their type- humanoid, magical beast, whatever- and not use the Outsider type. Right?(BTW- thanks for the help, I think you were able to nail my problem on the head, despite my possibly less than straightforward presentation).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cthulhudrew, post: 534409, member: 4090"] >Example #1 >Human Wizard native to the Prime plane shifts to the Abyss > >His type is Humanoid but his status is extraplanar. Therefore he >may be sent back to the Prime if a Demon casts Blasphemy on >him. Additionally, an abyssal being can send him back to the >Prime via Dismissal or Banishment. In addition he is still subject >to the spells which affect humanoids specifically (e.g. Charm >Person). > >Example #2 >A Pit Fiend in the Nine Hells (where it is a native) is attacked by >foes from the Prime who have entered its dominion > >The Pit Fiend's type is Outsider but its status is native. >Therefore, although it may be deafend by a Holy Word spell it >would not be banished as it already is on its home plane. >However, it is not subject to spells that specifically affect >Humanoids (e.g. Hold Monster) Okay, this is useful, and may be exactly the solution I was looking for. Maybe you can help me a little further. :) Say I've got a cosmology essentially similar to the Doppel Cosmology in the MotP- two Prime Materials, somewhat different from one another, which occasionally interact. By your example, then, a humanoid from either Prime would be the Humanoid type, but would follow the rules from Example #1 above when traveling to the other Prime, but a Balor would be an Outsider type and would be extraplanar when visiting either Prime, but would follow the rules for Example #2 when on its native plane. Essentially then, the stats for creatures from the Alternate Prime (which is where I'm ultimately heading, here) would simply list their type- humanoid, magical beast, whatever- and not use the Outsider type. Right? (BTW- thanks for the help, I think you were able to nail my problem on the head, despite my possibly less than straightforward presentation). [/QUOTE]

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