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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7424700" data-attributes="member: 6795602">So you are saying on average a player can expect to lose concentration on at least 1 spell every 3 sessions.&nbsp; However you have no information on what that average PC looks like.&nbsp; Is it a barbarian?&nbsp; An Eldritch Knight Fighter?&nbsp; A Sorcerer?&nbsp; Does the PC have Warcaster?&nbsp; Does the PC have proficiency in con saves?&nbsp; How often does the PC use concentration spells?&nbsp; Does the PC try to stay away from enemies or get near them?Losing concentration on 1 spell every 3 sessions doesn't sound bad but what if the average PC we are looking at for that is an eldritch knight fighter that uses a bow and has the warcaster feat and only casts about 1 concentration spell per sessions?&nbsp; If this is the PC the poll best represents then what about a lore bard that doesn't use feats or multiclassing.&nbsp; How much more often does he fail concentration checks?&nbsp; What about a War Cleric that uses a two handed weapon and melees and uses all his slots concentration spells?&nbsp; How much more often does he fail concentration checks?The fact is we don't know what the average PC looks like that fails 1 concentration save every 3 sessions and so any conclusion we try to draw from this data is basically meaningless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7424700, member: 6795602"] So you are saying on average a player can expect to lose concentration on at least 1 spell every 3 sessions. However you have no information on what that average PC looks like. Is it a barbarian? An Eldritch Knight Fighter? A Sorcerer? Does the PC have Warcaster? Does the PC have proficiency in con saves? How often does the PC use concentration spells? Does the PC try to stay away from enemies or get near them? Losing concentration on 1 spell every 3 sessions doesn't sound bad but what if the average PC we are looking at for that is an eldritch knight fighter that uses a bow and has the warcaster feat and only casts about 1 concentration spell per sessions? If this is the PC the poll best represents then what about a lore bard that doesn't use feats or multiclassing. How much more often does he fail concentration checks? What about a War Cleric that uses a two handed weapon and melees and uses all his slots concentration spells? How much more often does he fail concentration checks? The fact is we don't know what the average PC looks like that fails 1 concentration save every 3 sessions and so any conclusion we try to draw from this data is basically meaningless. [/QUOTE]

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