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<blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 7843881" data-attributes="member: 2303">The issue is compounded because I am playing a hill dwarf rogue. My highest ability score is Wis at 16, the Con and Dex both at 14. We have a war domain cleric with an AC of 20, a greatweapon fighter presumably around 18, and a bard at 14 or so. So half the party has lower AC than the goblins.I'm testing the system to see how mandatory it is to max out Dex as a rogue. I have a fallback plan where I'd instead e a mountain dwarf and use Strength to attack - despite being a rogue, I don't put a high priority on Stealth. That would give me even worse AC now for a better AC later, but I think I need a finesse weapon to sneak attack, so thats a problem.I do have an amazing +7 Perception at 1st level. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />About the treadmill effect, I see it as a definite problem and I am excited to see it gone - to what degree it is gone we'll see as we proceed.As a side not, we're now trying 5E instead of moving to PF2. PF2 seems to have so many 4E and 5E-isms in it I decided to try the real thing first.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Starfox, post: 7843881, member: 2303"] The issue is compounded because I am playing a hill dwarf rogue. My highest ability score is Wis at 16, the Con and Dex both at 14. We have a war domain cleric with an AC of 20, a greatweapon fighter presumably around 18, and a bard at 14 or so. So half the party has lower AC than the goblins. I'm testing the system to see how mandatory it is to max out Dex as a rogue. I have a fallback plan where I'd instead e a mountain dwarf and use Strength to attack - despite being a rogue, I don't put a high priority on Stealth. That would give me even worse AC now for a better AC later, but I think I need a finesse weapon to sneak attack, so thats a problem. I do have an amazing +7 Perception at 1st level. :) About the treadmill effect, I see it as a definite problem and I am excited to see it gone - to what degree it is gone we'll see as we proceed. As a side not, we're now trying 5E instead of moving to PF2. PF2 seems to have so many 4E and 5E-isms in it I decided to try the real thing first. [/QUOTE]

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