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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7843950" data-attributes="member: 996">It seems inevitable that, as you progress, there will be greater challenges that offer the same net difficulty as lesser ones did when you were less capable.&nbsp; The d20 makes that kinda inevitable, really.&nbsp; You might need a natural 13 at both 1st level and 20th, either because the DC has risen from 15 to 19 under 5e BA, or from 17 to 36 under 3e skill ranks.Whether the system is tuned to the point that you can remotely predict how difficult a later challenge might be is another question, entirely of course.&nbsp;&nbsp; At 20th, an utterly optimized 5e character might miss that DC 19 on a really bad roll, while a completely un-optimized one might make it, on, well, a natural 19 (they're still just barely 'on the die' is what I mean); conversely their 3e equivalents might be looking at auto-success for the optimized character and utter impossibility for the un-optimized one.If there's real progression going on, there really /should/ be a level that a past threat becomes no threat at all.&nbsp; It shouldn't happen as fast as it did in 3.x &amp; earlier, but it should happen, which I'm not sure it does under BA (it certainly could in some areas or circumstances - where the resolution is based on something more than just a lot of d20 checks).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7843950, member: 996"] It seems inevitable that, as you progress, there will be greater challenges that offer the same net difficulty as lesser ones did when you were less capable. The d20 makes that kinda inevitable, really. You might need a natural 13 at both 1st level and 20th, either because the DC has risen from 15 to 19 under 5e BA, or from 17 to 36 under 3e skill ranks. Whether the system is tuned to the point that you can remotely predict how difficult a later challenge might be is another question, entirely of course. At 20th, an utterly optimized 5e character might miss that DC 19 on a really bad roll, while a completely un-optimized one might make it, on, well, a natural 19 (they're still just barely 'on the die' is what I mean); conversely their 3e equivalents might be looking at auto-success for the optimized character and utter impossibility for the un-optimized one. If there's real progression going on, there really /should/ be a level that a past threat becomes no threat at all. It shouldn't happen as fast as it did in 3.x & earlier, but it should happen, which I'm not [I]sure[/I] it does under BA (it certainly could in some areas or circumstances - where the resolution is based on something more than just a lot of d20 checks). [/QUOTE]

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