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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6324448" data-attributes="member: 22424">Yes, and yes.Though note that in 3.5e it's not a 5% chance of failure - it's a Caster Level Check vs a DC of the scroll's spell level +1. And, if failed, a DC 5 Wis check to avoid a mishap.WRT to Craft (alchemy), though, I believe they don't count as a "spellcaster" until 4th level by the simple logic that they can't yet cast any spells.I'm afraid so. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The spell list is tied to the class, not to class + level.Not really. They're the rules for the Use Magic Device skill. They don't apply to Rangers and Paladins using scrolls and wands because they don't have to go through this route.I can't speak for Greenfield specifically, but my pet rules lawyer used to ask seemingly-innocuous questions to establish something so he could then pull an "ahah!" moment to persuade me I needed to accept some other abuse/fringe interpretation.Though I'm hard pressed to see any huge abuse deriving from letting a low-level Ranger craft thunderstones. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It has likewise never come up for me, but there is the corner case where a spell like cure light wounds has an arcane version but only as a Bard spell. Technically, your ruling would allow a Wizard to cast that spell from that scroll.(It's also worth noting that, strictly speaking, Bards can only use arcane scrolls of CLW, not just any old scroll. I mention this because IMC I've actually always ignored the "source" in favour of just looking at the class list - meaning that IMC a Bard can use a scroll of CLW crafted by a Cleric. Which is equally not RAW.)</blockquote>

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