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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6325260" data-attributes="member: 6669384">Our friend Tovec has apparently missed the reference.&nbsp; I'll provide it again.From the DMG, Page 213, or the SRD, under the heading &quot;Using Magic Items&quot;:I highlighted the important section this time, so it didn't get lost in the bulk of text.Simply put, the &quot;spell list&quot; mentioned is the spell list for the class, not the current spell list for that particular member of the class.So yes, a 1st level Ranger or Paladin can use a Wand of Cure Light Wounds, since that's on both the Ranger and Paladin class spell lists.&nbsp; Neither could use a Wand of Fireball however without the Use Magic Device skill, because that spell isn't on either class spell list.Similarly, a 1st level Ranger or Paladin could use a Scroll of Cure Light Wounds with a successful caster level check.&nbsp; &quot;Successful&quot;, in this case, means taking their existing caster level (zero), adding a D20 roll, and getting a total of one or more.&nbsp; In short, they can't fail for first level scrolls.So, getting back to that point where you lead with your chin, Tovec:&nbsp; Yes, you've been doing it wrong.&nbsp; (Again, all in fun.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6325260, member: 6669384"] Our friend Tovec has apparently missed the reference. I'll provide it again. From the DMG, Page 213, or the SRD, under the heading "Using Magic Items": I highlighted the important section this time, so it didn't get lost in the bulk of text. Simply put, the "spell list" mentioned is the spell list for the [I]class[/I], not the current spell list for that particular member of the class. So yes, a 1st level Ranger or Paladin can use a Wand of [I]Cure Light Wounds[/I], since that's on both the Ranger and Paladin class spell lists. Neither could use a Wand of [I]Fireball[/I] however without the Use Magic Device skill, because that spell isn't on either class spell list. Similarly, a 1st level Ranger or Paladin could use a Scroll of [I]Cure Light Wounds[/I] with a successful caster level check. "Successful", in this case, means taking their existing caster level (zero), adding a D20 roll, and getting a total of one or more. In short, they can't fail for first level scrolls. So, getting back to that point where you lead with your chin, Tovec: Yes, you've been doing it wrong. (Again, all in fun.) [/QUOTE]

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