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<blockquote data-quote="mvincent" data-source="post: 4271321" data-attributes="member: 27034"><p>The FAQ is not errata... it merely clarifies the current rules (which are pretty obvious in this matter). The FAQ answer is mentioning ranged touch attacks because that was the question it was answering. I did not include the full question earlier for brevity, but here it is:</p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">"<strong>Several spells, such as scorching ray and meteor swarm,</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>require the user to make multiple ranged touch attacks.</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Does the caster have to use the full attack action to use all</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>the ranged touch attacks these spells allow? If so, how does</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>this work? Does the caster have to hold the charge (like a</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>touch spell) and then use the full attack action later? Also</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>what attack bonus does the caster use? Can the caster use</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>his full attack bonus for each ranged touch attack, or does</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>the caster’s attack bonus decrease by 5 for each attack?</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>What happens if the caster uses the Quicken Spell feat and</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>casts the spell as a free action? What attack bonus does he</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>use then? How many ranged touch attacks can he make?</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>Do the caster’s other actions during the rest of the round</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>affect his attack bonus when using the spell?</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Both of the example spells have a casting time of 1</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">standard action and an instantaneous duration. The caster uses</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">the cast a spell action (a standard action), and makes all the</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">ranged touch attacks the spell allows as part of that standard</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">action (not as part of the attack or full attack action); making</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">these attacks is not an action at all.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">The caster uses his full attack bonus for all the ranged</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">touch attacks from either example spell. Any other spells that</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">allow multiple ranged touch attacks work the same way unless</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">their descriptions specifically say otherwise.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Casting a quickened version of either example spell works</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">exactly the same way (although you’d have to be an epic-level</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">character to cast a quickened meteor swarm); the caster makes</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">all the ranged touch attacks the spell allows as part of the free</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">action he used to cast the spell. The caster generally uses his</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">full attack bonus for each ranged touch attack. Any other</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">attacks the caster might make during the same round as the</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">quickened spell have no effect on the caster’s attack bonus for</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">the ranged touch attacks; however, if the caster does something</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">that gives him an attack penalty on all his attack rolls until his</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">next turn, such as fighting defensively, that attack penalty also</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">applies to his ranged touch attacks from the quickened spell."</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mvincent, post: 4271321, member: 27034"] The FAQ is not errata... it merely clarifies the current rules (which are pretty obvious in this matter). The FAQ answer is mentioning ranged touch attacks because that was the question it was answering. I did not include the full question earlier for brevity, but here it is: [SIZE=1]"[B]Several spells, such as scorching ray and meteor swarm, require the user to make multiple ranged touch attacks. Does the caster have to use the full attack action to use all the ranged touch attacks these spells allow? If so, how does this work? Does the caster have to hold the charge (like a touch spell) and then use the full attack action later? Also what attack bonus does the caster use? Can the caster use his full attack bonus for each ranged touch attack, or does the caster’s attack bonus decrease by 5 for each attack? What happens if the caster uses the Quicken Spell feat and casts the spell as a free action? What attack bonus does he use then? How many ranged touch attacks can he make? Do the caster’s other actions during the rest of the round affect his attack bonus when using the spell?[/B] Both of the example spells have a casting time of 1 standard action and an instantaneous duration. The caster uses the cast a spell action (a standard action), and makes all the ranged touch attacks the spell allows as part of that standard action (not as part of the attack or full attack action); making these attacks is not an action at all. The caster uses his full attack bonus for all the ranged touch attacks from either example spell. Any other spells that allow multiple ranged touch attacks work the same way unless their descriptions specifically say otherwise. Casting a quickened version of either example spell works exactly the same way (although you’d have to be an epic-level character to cast a quickened meteor swarm); the caster makes all the ranged touch attacks the spell allows as part of the free action he used to cast the spell. The caster generally uses his full attack bonus for each ranged touch attack. Any other attacks the caster might make during the same round as the quickened spell have no effect on the caster’s attack bonus for the ranged touch attacks; however, if the caster does something that gives him an attack penalty on all his attack rolls until his next turn, such as fighting defensively, that attack penalty also applies to his ranged touch attacks from the quickened spell."[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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