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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 565191" data-attributes="member: 537"><p><strong>Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Quicker than the Eye and AoO</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Every example has an equal and opposite counterexample. Suppose you're a fighter, and you're going up against an invisible wizard. You know he's there somewhere. The wizard casts a silenced spell (no Listen check applicable). You were swinging at the spot where he was before he went invisible, and you're still swinging. Why shouldn't you get a chance to damage him when he takes his mind off you for a second (assuming he didn't take the usual 5-foot step out of the danger zone)?</p><p></p><p>In your example, if the invisible guy was never visible in the first place, then the wizard would be totally unaware of their presence. Hence no AoO. If the invisible guy _was_ visible but then vanished, then the wizard knows _someone_ is out there, and presumably would be on his guard against people sneaking around....</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Making an AoO is a voluntary decision on the part of the _player_. In general, 3E is lenient about not forcing players to take actions (eg you don't have to take all attacks in a full attack, you can move in between these attacks, you don't have to pick targets in advance, etc). The choice to take an AoO is just part of that general principle, as far as I see.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hong, post: 565191, member: 537"] [b]Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Quicker than the Eye and AoO[/b] Every example has an equal and opposite counterexample. Suppose you're a fighter, and you're going up against an invisible wizard. You know he's there somewhere. The wizard casts a silenced spell (no Listen check applicable). You were swinging at the spot where he was before he went invisible, and you're still swinging. Why shouldn't you get a chance to damage him when he takes his mind off you for a second (assuming he didn't take the usual 5-foot step out of the danger zone)? In your example, if the invisible guy was never visible in the first place, then the wizard would be totally unaware of their presence. Hence no AoO. If the invisible guy _was_ visible but then vanished, then the wizard knows _someone_ is out there, and presumably would be on his guard against people sneaking around.... Making an AoO is a voluntary decision on the part of the _player_. In general, 3E is lenient about not forcing players to take actions (eg you don't have to take all attacks in a full attack, you can move in between these attacks, you don't have to pick targets in advance, etc). The choice to take an AoO is just part of that general principle, as far as I see. [/QUOTE]
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