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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Davelozzi" data-source="post: 1248011" data-attributes="member: 771">Hi. I'm looking for some feedback on this feat, which one of my players is interested in taking.  Since it's only one feat and I don't think that the book is in print anymore anyway, I think it'll be alright if I post it here for reference:Quicker Than The Eye [General]Your hands move so quickly that observers don't see what you've done.Prerequisite: Dexterity 19+Benefit: While under direct observation, you can make a Bluff check as a move equivalent action, opposed bt the Spot checks of any observers.  If you succeed, your misdirection makes them look elsewhere whle you take a partial action.  If your partial action is an attack against someone who failed the opposed check, that opponent is denied a Dexterity bonus to ACKeeping in mind that this was written for 3.0 (but we'd be using it for 3.5), the basic function of the feat is that it allows you to feint in combat (as per the Bluff skill), but using your Spot instead of Sense Motive and more significantly, as a move action instead of a standard action.  Trading Spot for Sense Motive seems like a negligble bonus, possibly a hindrance, since as far as I can tell more opponents are likely to have a higher Spot than Sense Motive.   The trouble comes with the transition to the 3.5 rules, as an opponent that you're trying to feint against now gets to add his BAB to his Sense Motive roll to apply your Bluff.  Using Spot instead now becomes a real advantage, and one that clearly wasn't intended by the original feat.  Therefore, I'm inclined, if I allow this feat, to ignore the Spot side of it, and keep using the Sense Motive, essentiall meaning that the feat benefit could be rewritten to simply say "You may feint in combat (as per the Bluff skill) as a move action rather than a standard action."Does this sound like a fair and well-reasoned way to handle this?More importantly, has anyone seen this feat in action (either 3.0 or 3.5) that can give me any feedback as to how well balanced it is?  The benefit is pretty substantial for a rogue, as it now means that anytime he doesn't have to move more than 5' in one round he can feint first as a move action, and if he's successful, follow up in the same round with a sneak attack.  This might be a little too easy.Thoughts?</blockquote>

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