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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cooperjer" data-source="post: 7010615" data-attributes="member: 6862150">I'm working on populating the Howling Hatred temple in Princes of the Apocalypse for level 9 & 10 PCs.  There is a room that has an individual cloaker.  This is a CR 8 creature that is supposed to use hit and run tactics, but is not equipped for that combat style, so I thought I would add something to make the encounter more interesting.  I browsed through VGtM and ran across the Quickling.  The quickling fits with the theme of the air elemental group, and I guess I could see a cloaker being tolerant of the chaotic, mischievous tiny creatures hanging out in the same area as it.The question I have in using a quickling is what is it's CR?  I see that VGtM lists it at CR 1.  That is great, but it has 10 HP, an AC of 16, and attacks against it have disadvantage if it isn't incapacitated.  However, I'm thinking these are one hit kills vs the level 9 or 10 PCs and will not significantly affect the encounter.  Therefore, I equipped them with leather armor, increased their Dex to 26, and gave them about 30 HP.  I gave them the goblin feature of of Nimble Escape and added one attack as part of their Multiattack (4 attacks now).  If I use the DMG tools on page 274 this shows to be a CR 16.5.  I find this very hard to believe.  The calculations for the quickling in VGtM is about a CR 5.  Would you think there is a -4 shift on the quickling based on play test or would you feel there is something closer to a 1/5 multiplier to the quickling.My instincts are telling me the changes I did to the quickling for my game put it near a CR 3 +/- 1.  What would you call it?</blockquote>

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