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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 7010829" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>Something doesn't look right about the CR of the VGtM quicklings... OK, let's find out what CR your "Howling Hatred" Quicklings are. We'll confer with the DMG p. 274...</p><p></p><p><strong>(1) Understanding VGtM Quickling</strong></p><p>We need to figure out the value of the quickling's defensive trait Blurred Movement; I already am pretty sure Evasion has no impact on CR calculations, so leaving that out of the equation. </p><p></p><p>HP 10, AC 16</p><p></p><p>So its defensive CR (without Blurred Movement) is 1/4</p><p></p><p>3 attacks dealing 8.5 per attack </p><p>= 25.5 DPR with +8 to hit</p><p></p><p>So its offensive CR is 5!</p><p></p><p>Take the average... (5 + 1/4) / 2 = CR 2.65</p><p></p><p>And that's <em>without</em> taking Blurred Movement into account!</p><p></p><p>My conclusion is that the VGtM Quickling was mistakenly assigned a CR 1. Its CR should be 3 like others are saying (I'd round up 2.65 due to Blurred Movement).</p><p></p><p><strong>(2) "Howling Hatred" Quickling, Defensive CR calculation</strong></p><p>HP 30</p><p>AC 19 (leather armor, and Dex 26 / +8) >> effective AC 23</p><p>Blurred Movement –– ?</p><p>Evasion –– has no impact on CR calculations</p><p>Nimble Escape –– increase effective AC by +4</p><p></p><p>So it's defensive CR (without Blurred Movement) is 3.</p><p></p><p><strong>(3) "Howling Hatred" Quickling, Offensive CR calculation</strong></p><p>4 attacks dealing 10.5 (1d4+8) damage per attack</p><p>= 42 DPR with +10 to hit</p><p></p><p>So its offensive CR is 8.</p><p></p><p><strong>(4) "Howling Hatred" Quickling, Total CR</strong></p><p></p><p>Take the average... (3 + 8) / 2 = CR 5.5</p><p></p><p>Since that's <em>without</em> taking Blurred Movement into account, I suggest rounding up to CR 6.</p><p></p><p><strong>(5) Encounter Building</strong></p><p></p><p>A party of five 10th-level PCs would have a Deadly encounter with a Cloaker (CR 8) and two "Howling Hatred" Quicklings (CR 6).</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Tl;dr Your Quickling is CR 6</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 7010829, member: 20323"] Something doesn't look right about the CR of the VGtM quicklings... OK, let's find out what CR your "Howling Hatred" Quicklings are. We'll confer with the DMG p. 274... [B](1) Understanding VGtM Quickling[/B] We need to figure out the value of the quickling's defensive trait Blurred Movement; I already am pretty sure Evasion has no impact on CR calculations, so leaving that out of the equation. HP 10, AC 16 So its defensive CR (without Blurred Movement) is 1/4 3 attacks dealing 8.5 per attack = 25.5 DPR with +8 to hit So its offensive CR is 5! Take the average... (5 + 1/4) / 2 = CR 2.65 And that's [I]without[/I] taking Blurred Movement into account! My conclusion is that the VGtM Quickling was mistakenly assigned a CR 1. Its CR should be 3 like others are saying (I'd round up 2.65 due to Blurred Movement). [B](2) "Howling Hatred" Quickling, Defensive CR calculation[/B] HP 30 AC 19 (leather armor, and Dex 26 / +8) >> effective AC 23 Blurred Movement –– ? Evasion –– has no impact on CR calculations Nimble Escape –– increase effective AC by +4 So it's defensive CR (without Blurred Movement) is 3. [B](3) "Howling Hatred" Quickling, Offensive CR calculation[/B] 4 attacks dealing 10.5 (1d4+8) damage per attack = 42 DPR with +10 to hit So its offensive CR is 8. [B](4) "Howling Hatred" Quickling, Total CR[/B] Take the average... (3 + 8) / 2 = CR 5.5 Since that's [I]without[/I] taking Blurred Movement into account, I suggest rounding up to CR 6. [B](5) Encounter Building[/B] A party of five 10th-level PCs would have a Deadly encounter with a Cloaker (CR 8) and two "Howling Hatred" Quicklings (CR 6). [SIZE=5]Tl;dr Your Quickling is CR 6[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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