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Quintessential Fighter/Arms & Armor/Sword & Fist: What books are you using?
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<blockquote data-quote="zorlag" data-source="post: 85731" data-attributes="member: 1394"><p><strong>Zorlag</strong></p><p></p><p>Here's my ranking for WotC's class books</p><p></p><p>1. Masters of the Wild</p><p>2. Tome & Blood</p><p>3. Sword and Fists</p><p>4. Song and Silence</p><p>5. Defenders of the Faith</p><p></p><p>I got my hands on MotW week ago and I have to say that it looks like best of the bunch. Good PrC's, feats and spells. It simply has most material that is useful for me as a DM and to my players as well. Miasma spell is worst bit in this book...</p><p></p><p>Tome and Blood is good all-arounder. There are few 'broken' things like Arcane Trickster and such, but still substantial portion of the book is useful.</p><p></p><p>Sword and Fist is a mixed bunch. In the other hand it has many typographical errors (5 pages of errata anyone?) and some bad feats (Dirty Fighting...lucking D&D FAQ had a followup-feat to make it slightly more useful). But it also has few very nice PrC's (Duelist is close to perfect, Gladiator is good (poison use is odd, though) and Cavalier/Knight/Defender are useful as well. Stronghold building info is nice when campaign goes away from dungeon-delving.</p><p></p><p>Song and Silence is extremely bland. Feats are balanced. PrC's are bad...Only three are useful (Thief-Acrobat, Spymaster and Virtuoso). Of these, virtuoso has abilities that straight bard should have and has in my games. Instrument info is too big, I mean I like the idea but several pages worth of this stuff is too much. Spells, some useful, some overpowered, some too weak.</p><p></p><p>Defenders of the Faith is bad. PrC's are not very useful (very limited), there are lots of errors in the book, some feats not useful enough (there are few to begin with). Some useful information about church hierarchies. Weird assortment of divine spells are included. This book left bad taste to my mouth.</p><p></p><p>I haven't read QF, but what I have read about it on reviews it seems that there are lots of 'I don't understand system well enough' type of errors in it. I'll read it if I can find it somewhere...</p><p></p><p>Z.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zorlag, post: 85731, member: 1394"] [b]Zorlag[/b] Here's my ranking for WotC's class books 1. Masters of the Wild 2. Tome & Blood 3. Sword and Fists 4. Song and Silence 5. Defenders of the Faith I got my hands on MotW week ago and I have to say that it looks like best of the bunch. Good PrC's, feats and spells. It simply has most material that is useful for me as a DM and to my players as well. Miasma spell is worst bit in this book... Tome and Blood is good all-arounder. There are few 'broken' things like Arcane Trickster and such, but still substantial portion of the book is useful. Sword and Fist is a mixed bunch. In the other hand it has many typographical errors (5 pages of errata anyone?) and some bad feats (Dirty Fighting...lucking D&D FAQ had a followup-feat to make it slightly more useful). But it also has few very nice PrC's (Duelist is close to perfect, Gladiator is good (poison use is odd, though) and Cavalier/Knight/Defender are useful as well. Stronghold building info is nice when campaign goes away from dungeon-delving. Song and Silence is extremely bland. Feats are balanced. PrC's are bad...Only three are useful (Thief-Acrobat, Spymaster and Virtuoso). Of these, virtuoso has abilities that straight bard should have and has in my games. Instrument info is too big, I mean I like the idea but several pages worth of this stuff is too much. Spells, some useful, some overpowered, some too weak. Defenders of the Faith is bad. PrC's are not very useful (very limited), there are lots of errors in the book, some feats not useful enough (there are few to begin with). Some useful information about church hierarchies. Weird assortment of divine spells are included. This book left bad taste to my mouth. I haven't read QF, but what I have read about it on reviews it seems that there are lots of 'I don't understand system well enough' type of errors in it. I'll read it if I can find it somewhere... Z. [/QUOTE]
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