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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emirikol" data-source="post: 2737357" data-attributes="member: 10638">> could just as well spend time with my wifeI sympathize with you.  I went through the same thing.  We had two people in the group that just couldn't stop the cross-table talk.  Damit, they'd been with us for a while and are nice enough, but they just sucked to game with.  Every session (of the 4 hours we get) started out with 1 hour ordering food and flappin the breeeze.> websiteSame for me.  We have a discussion group.  Plenty of room to 'discuss' whatever.  332 hours to discuss whatever.  That's why it's called a 'discussion' group and the game is called 'the game.'> x.p.I like your idea for getting rid of x.p.  Actually, I'm quite an @224013 about x.p.  I will absolutely shaft players who don't contribute. Yea, it's one thing to be a quiet player who participates.  It's another thing to be disruptive or absent or to walk off to have a smoke every 5 minutes..or to run to the store in the middle of the game.  I was at a table with a friend of mine who finally laid into this one guy at an RPGA event when he showed up 15 minutes late for an LG game and didn't have his character ready.  It went like this, "YOU COULDN'T PLAN AHEAD?  You need to waste everyone's time because you're irresponsible?  We've all got kids and lives and jobs (and did I mention lives?)  and because you're some homeless goth college drug addict who can't remember what direction to put his pants on you think you're so special that you get to waste our time?"  He didn't even need to let the player know that he wasn't welcome at the table.  Nevertheless, the player when and WHINED to the game staff and my buddy got a nice little lecture (and a high 5 from the rest of us).  So, I guess it should have gone like this:  "It's ok you're late Johnny.  We appreciate you showing up at all.  No, it's ok if you have to run to subway in a few minutes too and don't forget to walk off in the middle of the session to visit the dealer's room.  We'll stop the game and wait for you to finish your character.  Don't worry, if we don't finish the scenario in the 4 hours, it's ok.  We didn't want the x.p. or g.p. anyways (maybe that's too snyde) and we always like people like you..because you're our friend."I feel so dirty, elitist, and exclusionary.  I suppose it would be different if I were dying for players..but like I say, I regularly get applications to the group.jh..</blockquote>

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