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Message: <blockquote data-quote="farscapesg1" data-source="post: 2738043" data-attributes="member: 15234">Some would argue that these rules do need to be posted.  When was the last time you went to a movie theatre and used the rest room?  As an adult I know to wash my hands after taking care of business.  It is disturbing to watch the number of guys do their business at the urinal and then just zip up and walk out.  These are all adults and part of our society.  Obviously, those "unwritten" rules everyone is supposed to know aren't working  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />  Not only that, but since the last three guys out the door didn't wash their hands, they've contaminated the door.  Even if you wash your hands, you then have to dry them (using the "environment friendly" hot air units) and then touch that same door to leave, thereby voiding the whole process of washing your hands.  Now when you sit down to eat your popcorn, guess what else you are eating  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> If you like a game setting with friends and an unwritten code of conduct, more power to you.  But, your way is not the only way.  Some people like a structured environment, with rules and penalties spelled out in detail.  They aren't necessarily correct either.Take the fun-vs-work comments about gaming for example.  Some people like to get together with friends to game and don't care if half or more of the session is tied up in idle chit-chat and what-not.  Great!  Good for you.  I'm not about to call you an a$$hat because that is your sort of game.On the other end, I would never game with my old friends again.  My time with them is better spent just sitting around and shooting the bull without the pretense of playing D&D.  When I game, I treat it similiar to work.  My job is to show up, participate in the game, and help make sure that everyone has fun.  My payment for this responsibility is getting to have fun myself.  If I'm not having enough fun, I'm free to quit.  If I am not providing during the game (being disruptive, irritating other players, annoying the DM, not paying attention, etc.) they have the right to "fire" me.  Spending 3 or 4 hours of my time not "getting paid" (i.e., not having fun because we are doing everything except playing the game)for being there doesn't cut it.To further complicate things, I do things for the pleasure of accomplishing something, and gaming is included in that.  Whether it is killing the dragon to save the princess, or even just dying in the attempt, I need to have a goal and work towards something.  Sitting at a game table for 7 hours and clearing 5 rooms in a dungeon, when the module is designed to be finished in one game session, is not enough of an accomplishment.</blockquote>

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