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<blockquote data-quote="Damon Griffin" data-source="post: 933928" data-attributes="member: 3568"><p>You're free to interpret it that way, and I won't say you're wrong; hopefully you will extend me the same courtesy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, it gives fairly clear <strong>examples</strong> of the kinds of things most commonly stored in it, in order to indicate the number of those things it will hold. Nowhere does the description explicitly state that other objects cannot be placed into it instead.</p><p></p><p>Since a coil of rope is not an object of the same general size and shape as a javelin, it follows from the item's description that I will not be able to store up to 18 coils of rope in the second compartment; it does not <strong>necessarily</strong> follow that I cannot store one coil of rope (or indeed any combination of objects whose total volume doesn't exceed that of 18 javelins, and which can be packed into an area shaped to hold 18 javelins), though again you are free to make that interpretation without being labeled incorrect.</p><p></p><p>Yes, the quiver was intended to hold arrows, javelins and bows when it was created. So what? Cigar boxes were created to hold cigars (or some number of objects the size and shape of cigars), and you can put almost anything, or any collection of things, into one, so long as the box's volume is not exceeded.</p><p></p><p>But cigar boxes aren't magical! Again, so what? I'm trying to see this from the point of view of both the spellcaster who enchants the item, and the person who will be using the item. As far as I can tell, it doesn't benefit either one of them to go to the extra trouble of limiting the space within the quiver to just certain specific objects. </p><p></p><p>If the extra restrictions benefit no one, why are they there? For that matter, HOW are they there? I can't think of a spell offhand that does anything like this -- set up a forcefield that will pass one specific type of object and block all others -- so I can't think what could be used as the basis for such a restriction on the quiver. Limited Wish?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Damon Griffin, post: 933928, member: 3568"] You're free to interpret it that way, and I won't say you're wrong; hopefully you will extend me the same courtesy. Actually, it gives fairly clear [B]examples[/B] of the kinds of things most commonly stored in it, in order to indicate the number of those things it will hold. Nowhere does the description explicitly state that other objects cannot be placed into it instead. Since a coil of rope is not an object of the same general size and shape as a javelin, it follows from the item's description that I will not be able to store up to 18 coils of rope in the second compartment; it does not [B]necessarily[/B] follow that I cannot store one coil of rope (or indeed any combination of objects whose total volume doesn't exceed that of 18 javelins, and which can be packed into an area shaped to hold 18 javelins), though again you are free to make that interpretation without being labeled incorrect. Yes, the quiver was intended to hold arrows, javelins and bows when it was created. So what? Cigar boxes were created to hold cigars (or some number of objects the size and shape of cigars), and you can put almost anything, or any collection of things, into one, so long as the box's volume is not exceeded. But cigar boxes aren't magical! Again, so what? I'm trying to see this from the point of view of both the spellcaster who enchants the item, and the person who will be using the item. As far as I can tell, it doesn't benefit either one of them to go to the extra trouble of limiting the space within the quiver to just certain specific objects. If the extra restrictions benefit no one, why are they there? For that matter, HOW are they there? I can't think of a spell offhand that does anything like this -- set up a forcefield that will pass one specific type of object and block all others -- so I can't think what could be used as the basis for such a restriction on the quiver. Limited Wish? [/QUOTE]
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