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<blockquote data-quote="Razuur" data-source="post: 1568883" data-attributes="member: 1997">The whole D20 Modern thing can be kind of sensitive on these boards.&nbsp; Sometimes it seems that unless you love D20M, you get ripped to pieces.&nbsp; Each unto their own - and here is my opinion.&nbsp; So here goes!1.&nbsp; I like the idea of D20 Modern.&nbsp; As a GM, I think that too much Unearthed Arcana material made it into D20 Modern, and vice versa.&nbsp; I wanted D20 Modern to be a generic toolkit, and D20 Modern had the Modern D&amp;D theme throughout.&nbsp; I really disliked the addition of kobalds, Gnolls, and the like in the book.2.&nbsp; The art.&nbsp; It just doesn't jive, with me or my players.&nbsp; It is almost anime., but not quite.&nbsp; And then when you add in gnolls in pimp outfits, it enters so far into stupid territory, in our opinion.3.&nbsp; As a GM I appreciate the classes and how they are generic.&nbsp; All of my players think that they are just plain boring.&nbsp; They want classes like Soldier, Scholar, etc and so forth.&nbsp; That's what advanced classes are for you say - me too.&nbsp; but there si no telling them that.4.&nbsp; My group prefers Spycraft's combat to D20 Modern's.All of that said, I still like D20 Modern - I just don't love it.&nbsp; I must say that Mongoose's OGL books (Cybernet, horror, etc) use the D20M SRD and we *really* like them.&nbsp; but then they bring in &quot;named classes&quot; and tend to really bend the system to fit the genre.I would like to see more D20M stuff, especially stuff that propagates the Generic toolkit versus the Modern fantasy.My 2 cents.Razuur</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Razuur, post: 1568883, member: 1997"] The whole D20 Modern thing can be kind of sensitive on these boards. Sometimes it seems that unless you love D20M, you get ripped to pieces. Each unto their own - and here is my opinion. So here goes! 1. I like the idea of D20 Modern. As a GM, I think that too much Unearthed Arcana material made it into D20 Modern, and vice versa. I wanted D20 Modern to be a generic toolkit, and D20 Modern had the Modern D&D theme throughout. I really disliked the addition of kobalds, Gnolls, and the like in the book. 2. The art. It just doesn't jive, with me or my players. It is almost anime., but not quite. And then when you add in gnolls in pimp outfits, it enters so far into stupid territory, in our opinion. 3. As a GM I appreciate the classes and how they are generic. All of my players think that they are just plain boring. They want classes like Soldier, Scholar, etc and so forth. That's what advanced classes are for you say - me too. but there si no telling them that. 4. My group prefers Spycraft's combat to D20 Modern's. All of that said, I still like D20 Modern - I just don't love it. I must say that Mongoose's OGL books (Cybernet, horror, etc) use the D20M SRD and we *really* like them. but then they bring in "named classes" and tend to really bend the system to fit the genre. I would like to see more D20M stuff, especially stuff that propagates the Generic toolkit versus the Modern fantasy. My 2 cents. Razuur [/QUOTE]

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