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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5275268">Generally, I don't, but for you sir, I shall indulge.They are, but they're given a culture, a life, a whole world to them that makes them not simply "mongrel" children.  This is what I'm complaining about, the Dwarven race is essentially founded, framed, and finished in stereotypes.  While there are dozens of other races that get interesting, unique, and non-stereotype based backgrounds.You could say that, but you'd be reaching.  Most tieflings are portrayed as simply trying to make their way in the world, avoiding being killed on sight and making the best life they can while doing so.  In more recent editions, some are even portrayed as good of heart.  This is how they break those stereotypes, while it is nearly impossible to find a dwarf who does not love food, drink, stone, and hair, it is readily possible to find a tiefling who is just a normal person who got a band hand in the gene game.To be honest, I don't may much attention to halflings and gnomes, so I don't really know how well they fit stereotypes.My only grudge against warforged is my friend who was obsessed with them, so that's personal.  I don't find warforged all that interesting is what it boils down to, they're really just an excuse to allow people to play robots in the classic fantasy setting.D&D keeps the classic minotaur myth alive within them, and adds well to their culture.  Again, my complaint is only that Dwarvs aren't getting a fair deal when it comes to culture and lore.Now you're just getting silly.  I've read up on all of these except Goliaths, and they've all got some development to them, the final issue is simply that WoTC has made something unique with them, while they have not with Dwarves.Again, we're all entitled to our own opinions, but I just don't think dwarves are being given a fair deal when it comes to their own culture, but they are unfortunately steeped in so much classic fantasy tradition, that EVERYONE feels that Dwarves have to be poor parodies of the "lesser europeans", means it isn't going anywhere for a while.  And woe be on those who do try to break dwarves from their ale and meat and stone loving loves, for they are heathens!Nutshell: All I want is for Dwarves to really get a culture of their own, not a mis-mosh of stereotypes turned into a history.</blockquote>

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