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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5275836" data-attributes="member: 82106">Except the 16 surge dwarf (there's one in my party, absolutely scary even with CON/WIS) will get out there and suck up hits so that by the time the 7 surge wizard is ready to head back he'll definitely be able to get down close to zero himself. Also note that the dwarf does NOT have 3 lower NADs than the human. Humans lose a point of defense because they have a lower by 2 secondary. And lets not kid ourselves, Stand Your Ground KICKS. Dwarven Resilience KICKS, even the +5 vs Poisons is pretty nice, there are a lot of nasty poison attacks out there. The speed penalty is virtually irrelevant since you always wear scale armor. Use FWT, put an Execution Axe in his hands, nice. Take DWT, then go for Potent Challenge. NOBODY wants to defy your mark, no way no how. You can always go Dreadnought at 11th level. Forget anyone getting effects to stick on you.&nbsp; Pick up Timely Respite for added saving power.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5275836, member: 82106"] Except the 16 surge dwarf (there's one in my party, absolutely scary even with CON/WIS) will get out there and suck up hits so that by the time the 7 surge wizard is ready to head back he'll definitely be able to get down close to zero himself. Also note that the dwarf does NOT have 3 lower NADs than the human. Humans lose a point of defense because they have a lower by 2 secondary. And lets not kid ourselves, Stand Your Ground KICKS. Dwarven Resilience KICKS, even the +5 vs Poisons is pretty nice, there are a lot of nasty poison attacks out there. The speed penalty is virtually irrelevant since you always wear scale armor. Use FWT, put an Execution Axe in his hands, nice. Take DWT, then go for Potent Challenge. NOBODY wants to defy your mark, no way no how. You can always go Dreadnought at 11th level. Forget anyone getting effects to stick on you. Pick up Timely Respite for added saving power. [/QUOTE]

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