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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aulirophile" data-source="post: 5276955" data-attributes="member: 86312">Not... really.Circlet of Arkhosia+Second Wind as an Immediate Interrupt (/gasp, a Dwarf only feat)+Dwarf Only feat that gives +5 to all saves after SWing, and.. oh, hell, let us say a Nullifying Ring and assume an Epic character).  Now any time you are hit with a status effect that deals damage, you have the equivalent of a Wizard's Shield because your Second Wind can interrupt the hit (tack on a Defensive Weapon, so +8 to all defenses). At epic you can easily Second Wind 2-3 times per encounter (or up to 5 with a certain Dwarf Only PP). But let us assume it still hits. You have +8 to all saves, can save at the beginning of your turn vs Stun/Daze/Dominate (which are the three worst Defender conditions) and unless you roll a 1,  you pass. Or you can be trained in Endurance, sacrifice one of your 19 Healing Surges (you do have 19 Healing Surges, right? Because Str/Con Dwarves tend to) and roll a save against every effect on you that a save can end. Gee that'd be useful on a Defender. Let us try it out on, say, an Earthstrength Warden. +2 (SW)+6(Defensive)+8(Con) to all defenses, as an Immediate Interrupt, 3-5 times per encounter. A Cincture of Vivacity and the Dwarf feat (gasp!) that adds 2 surges and con to HS value will make the "overheal" issue basically irrelevant. So, again, Str/Con Warden > Dwarf. Battlerager > Dwarf. This one is kind of the most irritating, since before there was a really good reason to go Dragonborn with Draconic Arrogance, but being a Dwarf is just too good now. If you plan on upgrading to Plate Mail ever > Dwarf (Plate Spec at epic without sacrificing your secondary). So that would be... uh, all Str/Wis and Str/Con Fighters. So Str/Dex Fighters are the only Fighter that isn't best as a Dwarf now. It doesn't matter how "small" people think the difference is, though the difference was small before this change. The difference is not small now. Any class that can use both Str and Con is going, by default, to be best as a Dwarf. There really isn't any reason to pick another race, because Dwarves have the best feat support of any race barring maybe Eladrin. Forced movement sucks for Defender, Dwarves can defend against it. Prone sucks for melee. Dwarves get a saving throw. The speed difference is irrelevant for half the people that go Str/Con, because they wear heavy armor anyway (only really even bothers Wardens.. and Wardens are happy to charge if it comes up).</blockquote>

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