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<blockquote data-quote="Iron Sky" data-source="post: 5319784" data-attributes="member: 60965"><p>With rolled stats, you can also end up with the craziness that we did when we rolled:</p><p></p><p>Character 1 initial stats: 18, 16, 13, 12, 10, 6</p><p>Character 2 initial stats: 18, 18, 15, 11, 10, 10</p><p>Character 3 initial stats: 18, 18, 18, 14, 12, 6</p><p>Character 4 initial stats: rubbish, talked the DM into letting him use point buy because they were so bad</p><p></p><p>In all our characters, in equivalent point buy totals were something like 40, 43, 52, and... 22.</p><p></p><p>After we hit paragon, the <em>players</em> who had rolled these ridiculously awesome stats suggested to the DM that we switch to point buy from here on out, because the power difference between most of us and the 22 was glaring.</p><p></p><p>If point buy really doesn't do it for you and you want to use your d6 for something, you could always do this: Grab 18 dice. Set 4 of them to 6, 4 to 5, 4 to 4, 4 to 3 and 2 to 2. If you had rolled an exactly average 4d6 drop 1 six times, these are the dice you would end up with (dropping 2 2s and the 4 1s). Now you just arrange these 18 dice with 3 going to each of your 6 stats. Total the 3 dice for each stat. Win.</p><p></p><p>Dice (kinda) used, check. Everyone with (potentially) equal characters, check.</p><p></p><p>Sample arrays from this method: </p><p>18, 16, 14, 12, 9, 7</p><p>18, 12, 12, 12, 10, 10</p><p>16, 16, 10, 10, 8, 8</p><p>15, 15, 15, 15, 9, 7</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iron Sky, post: 5319784, member: 60965"] With rolled stats, you can also end up with the craziness that we did when we rolled: Character 1 initial stats: 18, 16, 13, 12, 10, 6 Character 2 initial stats: 18, 18, 15, 11, 10, 10 Character 3 initial stats: 18, 18, 18, 14, 12, 6 Character 4 initial stats: rubbish, talked the DM into letting him use point buy because they were so bad In all our characters, in equivalent point buy totals were something like 40, 43, 52, and... 22. After we hit paragon, the [I]players[/I] who had rolled these ridiculously awesome stats suggested to the DM that we switch to point buy from here on out, because the power difference between most of us and the 22 was glaring. If point buy really doesn't do it for you and you want to use your d6 for something, you could always do this: Grab 18 dice. Set 4 of them to 6, 4 to 5, 4 to 4, 4 to 3 and 2 to 2. If you had rolled an exactly average 4d6 drop 1 six times, these are the dice you would end up with (dropping 2 2s and the 4 1s). Now you just arrange these 18 dice with 3 going to each of your 6 stats. Total the 3 dice for each stat. Win. Dice (kinda) used, check. Everyone with (potentially) equal characters, check. Sample arrays from this method: 18, 16, 14, 12, 9, 7 18, 12, 12, 12, 10, 10 16, 16, 10, 10, 8, 8 15, 15, 15, 15, 9, 7 [/QUOTE]
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