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Message: <blockquote data-quote="santosud37" data-source="post: 9649814" data-attributes="member: 7048156">I am old schooler of 0D&D through 2nd ed. I am having a problem with 2 things for the game but I do not want to use 5th ed in anyway shape or form when it comes to this. As I believe 5th ed. was created by chaotic lunatics that have no concept of how authority and rules work in our known Universe.I like Gary Gygax's and the other creators  ideas and concepts of class and level restrictions, because, as he said: "Demi-humans live longer than Humans so we put these restrictions in plsce to balance the game." This quote is found in the introduction section of the 1st ed PH pgs 7-8. I am sure it is in other places as well because it makes sense.Take a 2000 year old Elf and have a max 100 year old Human compete against that semi-immortal in experience. It just doesn't work. This is the logic behind Gary's and others thinking that the lunatics of 5th ed. would never understand because they want everything handed to them with a Silver Spoon.Anyway, my question is, because the 1st ed PHand UA are conflicting in it's rule on this, I have 2 High Elf Thieves; 1 a Male at L20, 1 a Female at L17, and, in accodance with both these books it says that Elven Thieves are Unlimited in Level under the Racial Level Limitations. This conflicts with what it says in 0D&D in that Elves can be only Fighter/Mages, which I do not agree with, as that was the original box sets, and it also conflicts with 2nd ed. AD&D, which is found on page 15 of the 2nd ed. DMG. I agree with the Optional there, however. What are the thoughts of the community on this subject without delving in the chaotic lunacy idea of the 5th ed. where all races are Unlimited in level? Maybe 4th ed. answers this question, I do not know. I may need to change the levels of my Thieves is the main reason why I am asking. Maybe dual class them with the Thief Acrobat class are my thoughts.My second question is about Psionics. I am having some difficulty with the Players Skills Options book on this matter and I will have to get the Psionists Handbook maybe for this answer. Are the Aura Alteration and Mind Bar Psionics, and possibly others,  been removed from the game? Or does it just depend on which rules one goes by? This is also a question about the 'Death's Door' spell for 3rd Level Clerics?Any input would be great!Thanks In Advance!</blockquote>

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