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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3709333" data-attributes="member: 11586">One thing I really liked about Saga is the reroll abilities of the races.  A good example of this for 4E could be Elves finding secret doors.  Currently Elves have an automatic chance to find a secret door, which basically is a Search check whenever the DM thinks they need one.  I see a few problems with how this works.  First off, it is an often overlooked ability.  It hardly sees use.  When it does get used, it is usually only because there IS a secret door present.  Again, rarely does a DM give the Elf a secret door Search check when there ISN'T a secret door present.  In the current rules, there is no mention of this roll being secret/behind the scenes or not.  Which leads to...  As soon as the other players see that the Elf is getting an automatic Search check, they often take it upon themselves to search as well.  The end result, the only time the ability use is when there is a secret door present, and at that point, everyone just rolls a Search check anyway...Now, using the Saga rules, what could potentially happen is they get an automatic reroll.  Roll low on that Search check Mr. Elf?  Try again.  Of course, you still have to worry about metamaging a bit.  The character doesn't know he rolled a 2 for the Search check, so as far as he is concerned, he checked for the secret door as best he could.  However, the player, upon seeing this 2 come up, will decide "I don't think I searched as well as I could havem let me roll again".Anyway, I like the idea of racial abilities allowing rerolls for certain aspects their race is good at (Searching, Spotting, Diplomacy, etc.)</blockquote>

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