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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 5274018">Pardon my newbness, but the problem that seems to present itsself here is that it takes the &quot;role&quot; out of the &quot;playing&quot;.&nbsp; So maybe your deva is really just a pale human with a god-obsession.&nbsp; Or maybe your dragonborn is actually just a human with a big ego.&nbsp; While the character's personality may have interesting merits, at the end of the day, everyone is still just playing &quot;weird humans&quot;.&nbsp; In which case they might as well just be &quot;weird regular humans&quot; whom act weird instead of having some weird attribute.Nutshell: Playing &quot;weird humans&quot; is tantamount to playing &quot;boring humans&quot;.IMO, I think be best comrpomise was presented earlier.&nbsp; Instead of watering down everything that's interesting about a race till it's merely a complex the character has, set limits on how many of whom and what you want in a group.&nbsp; The solution I see to the problem of fun vs order, is to get your group together and have them work out who should be what together.&nbsp; If you already do this, great.&nbsp; But if certain people aren't going to be as weird as they want to be and some people have to actually be, god forbid, normal, then group support is a great solution.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 5274018"] Pardon my newbness, but the problem that seems to present itsself here is that it takes the "role" out of the "playing". So maybe your deva is really just a pale human with a god-obsession. Or maybe your dragonborn is actually just a human with a big ego. While the character's personality may have interesting merits, at the end of the day, everyone is still just playing "weird humans". In which case they might as well just be "weird regular humans" whom act weird instead of having some weird attribute. Nutshell: Playing "weird humans" is tantamount to playing "boring humans". IMO, I think be best comrpomise was presented earlier. Instead of watering down everything that's interesting about a race till it's merely a complex the character has, set limits on how many of whom and what you want in a group. The solution I see to the problem of fun vs order, is to get your group together and have them work out who should be what together. If you already do this, great. But if certain people aren't going to be as weird as they want to be and some people have to actually be, god forbid, [I]normal[/I], then group support is a great solution. [/QUOTE]

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