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<blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 3969993" data-attributes="member: 32164"><p>I'd like to point out, briefly, that Chinese broadswords are basically shortswords by D&D definitions.</p><p></p><p>The problem with Two-Weapon fighting with large blades is that mostly, it leads to what my friends and I call "the windmill effect." We have a buddy who used to do this in the SCA, and we put him to the test. With his rattan SCA sticks, he's fine. The sticks hit and do damage...no problem.</p><p></p><p>With a bladed weapon, it gets tricky. When you try to strike with the edge, the windmilling that's necessary to manipulate two large weapons tends to make you hit with, what, on an edged weapon, is the flat of the blade. Which is a great way to break your swords.</p><p></p><p>As I pointed out on WotC's <em>Star Wars</em> forums, this isn't an issue with short staves, as in Escrima, or lightsabers, where the entire blade "surface" is a cutting "edge." With a standard sword, it's a problem. It's not insurmountable problem, but it's a problem.</p><p></p><p>So, by my experience, I'd go this route:</p><p></p><p>Two-Weapon fighting (sword and small paired weapon, or two light blades): 1 feat.</p><p>Two-Weapon fighting (2 large cutting blades): 1 feat.</p><p></p><p>Weapon "tricks" or "maneuvers" - choose for each weapon. So a two-weapon fighter might have the advantage of using both dagger maneuvers and rapier maneuvers, for example. Just as the weapon and shield guy can probably use a "shield" maneuver in the same round as his "weapon maneuver." I'm sure the shield maneuver is usually, no doubt, defensive. That would typically be the case with a secondary weapon as well.</p><p></p><p>Should be interesting to see <em>how</em> WotC decided to handle it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JohnSnow, post: 3969993, member: 32164"] I'd like to point out, briefly, that Chinese broadswords are basically shortswords by D&D definitions. The problem with Two-Weapon fighting with large blades is that mostly, it leads to what my friends and I call "the windmill effect." We have a buddy who used to do this in the SCA, and we put him to the test. With his rattan SCA sticks, he's fine. The sticks hit and do damage...no problem. With a bladed weapon, it gets tricky. When you try to strike with the edge, the windmilling that's necessary to manipulate two large weapons tends to make you hit with, what, on an edged weapon, is the flat of the blade. Which is a great way to break your swords. As I pointed out on WotC's [i]Star Wars[/i] forums, this isn't an issue with short staves, as in Escrima, or lightsabers, where the entire blade "surface" is a cutting "edge." With a standard sword, it's a problem. It's not insurmountable problem, but it's a problem. So, by my experience, I'd go this route: Two-Weapon fighting (sword and small paired weapon, or two light blades): 1 feat. Two-Weapon fighting (2 large cutting blades): 1 feat. Weapon "tricks" or "maneuvers" - choose for each weapon. So a two-weapon fighter might have the advantage of using both dagger maneuvers and rapier maneuvers, for example. Just as the weapon and shield guy can probably use a "shield" maneuver in the same round as his "weapon maneuver." I'm sure the shield maneuver is usually, no doubt, defensive. That would typically be the case with a secondary weapon as well. Should be interesting to see [i]how[/i] WotC decided to handle it. [/QUOTE]
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