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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zarionofarabel" data-source="post: 8146813" data-attributes="member: 7026405">Part of the reason I gave up on D&D was 3e and it's endless additions of classes. I found classless RPGs that work better as they allow for flexible character rules without needing to continuously add more classes.That's why I think it might be time for D&D to abandon that "sacred cow" if none of the others, simply because the player base wants flexible character rules. The continuous addition of more and more and more classes to cover the obvious drawbacks of a class system is pretty obvious. In a classless system you can have a party of 3 rogues without needing 3 different classes to do so.It just strikes me as funny that the player base obviously wants the system to do things differently, yet I still find that many D&D players will not under any circumstances use a different system. Just strikes me as odd. To me it would be like someone that eats vanilla ice cream, complains that it's not chocolate, but refuses to just go eat chocolate because at one time in the distant past vanilla was all they could get. Yeah...weird.</blockquote>