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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 8147032" data-attributes="member: 6677017">I don't like classes and levels. I never have. I feel that they constrict concepts, break verisimilitude, and often create an artificial system of value where NPCs seem unimportant because they are “just a” 0th-level fighter or 1st-level commoner.That being said, when I’m playing D&D I want classes, levels, alignment, beholders, and the Twin Paradises of Bytopia. Because that’s what is uniquely D&D.  The d20 system isn’t that great, but it is iconic to D&D. Separating them (or IMO using the d20 SRD for non-D&D) is stripping out essential identity when there is no need. What there is more need of is for players to be exposed to other RPGs so they can play D&D when they want to play D&D and play something else when they want to play something else.Max Muller said regarding the field of religion that “He who knows one, knows none.” I think that equally applies to a lot of fields, including RPGs.Unless people have real exposure to other RPGs, their view of D&D is very limited, and they make too many assumptions, as well as wasting effort on inefficient ideas (like completely changing D&D), rather than simply selecting (or designing) exactly the right system for the stories they want to play.</blockquote>