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<blockquote data-quote="Marandahir" data-source="post: 8041821" data-attributes="member: 6803643"><p>No worries, I guess I wasn't clear about it.</p><p></p><p>Some things are unique to what you are.</p><p></p><p>So a literal fishman with gills, like the Triton or say the Locathah, those are features that belong in the ancestry column. They shouldn't be mixed with a class line. All fishmen with gills should be able to breath underwater and have a swim speed.</p><p></p><p>SOME fishmen with gills may know how to use a trident and net and crossbow underwater, but this shouldn't be all of them. And some humans should be able to learn how to use those too. These are features of the "diver" class (or background). They're part of your learned skills, not your heritage.</p><p></p><p>I think ancestries can and should have ability scores, ribbon features, and mechanical features. But they should be divorced from anything that would be learned due to culture. It was wrong in 2014, it's still wrong in 2020.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, classes should not represent where you came from, but who you choose to be. Even Sorcerers only came as far as 1st level because they started dabbling with their magic, experimenting to see what happens.</p><p></p><p>As for a President of the US, that's a political situation. If the character wanted to be President really badly enough, they might dismantle the government and make new rules. They'd probably fail, but it's still something they could choose to do, not a fact of their biology.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marandahir, post: 8041821, member: 6803643"] No worries, I guess I wasn't clear about it. Some things are unique to what you are. So a literal fishman with gills, like the Triton or say the Locathah, those are features that belong in the ancestry column. They shouldn't be mixed with a class line. All fishmen with gills should be able to breath underwater and have a swim speed. SOME fishmen with gills may know how to use a trident and net and crossbow underwater, but this shouldn't be all of them. And some humans should be able to learn how to use those too. These are features of the "diver" class (or background). They're part of your learned skills, not your heritage. I think ancestries can and should have ability scores, ribbon features, and mechanical features. But they should be divorced from anything that would be learned due to culture. It was wrong in 2014, it's still wrong in 2020. Likewise, classes should not represent where you came from, but who you choose to be. Even Sorcerers only came as far as 1st level because they started dabbling with their magic, experimenting to see what happens. As for a President of the US, that's a political situation. If the character wanted to be President really badly enough, they might dismantle the government and make new rules. They'd probably fail, but it's still something they could choose to do, not a fact of their biology. [/QUOTE]
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