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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 849744" data-attributes="member: 1757">Funny; I actually tend to think that drow would be balanced just fine at ECL +2 even if they were admired and lionized wherever they went. LA for 0-HD, non-fighter-oriented creatures is really, really disadvantageous in general, all the more so for races that have a Con penalty and have to blow a feat just to function properly in daylight!As for the avariel: They suck. Terribly. Great RP opportunities, sure... if they could survive a single adventure.The problem is simply that a 1st-level avariel character, for instance (don't even bother with the avariel cleric; giving ECL races caster classes as favored classes is just added cruelty) will have only 1 Hit Die, one feat, a single level's worth of skill points, +0 or +1 BAB, and piddling 1st-level abilities. An aasimar Pal3, OTOH, will have two feats, three levels worth of skill points, three times the hit points, and three levels worth of class abilities, in addition to special racial abilities. The avariel, by comparison, has the ability to fly. Is flight alone worth two character levels? Now advance these characters to ECL 7. The avariel is now a 4th level character with 4 HD, BAB +2-+4, four levels worth of skill points, two feats, and four levels worth of class abilities. The aasimar has spent two of her feats on Celestial Bloodline and Outsider Wings. She has one feat (one fewer than the avariel), but 2 more HD and two levels worth of BAB, saves, and class abilities. Are two levels worth a single feat? I think not.</blockquote>

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