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<blockquote data-quote="Pale Jackal" data-source="post: 4793067" data-attributes="member: 58878"><p>I am seriously considering the same thing, though I do think some racials are balanced around the current stat bumps. For example: Dwarven and Eladrin Weapon Training seem to exist to make up for the fact that neither class gets a Strength bump, and to allow them to play Fighter types more effectively. Of course, neither feat scales with tier. I have no idea why Goliaths get excellent Barbarian stat bumps, AND a feat like Dwarven Weapon Training (for two handed weapons) which DOES scale with tier. </p><p></p><p>One thing that I did not think of, though, is how the PHB 2 seems to change is how attributes work. For example: a Dwarf who wants to use an axe as a primary source of damage with PHB 1 classes (Paladin, fighter, ranger, and so on) is at a disadvantage because of his lack of strength, so he gets Dwarven Weapon Training, which partially balances things out. However, in the PHB 2, he could be an Avenger, and thus have an 18 or 20 in Wisdom and still use a maul with Dwarven Weapon Training.</p><p></p><p>I do like your idea that requires one of the two stat bumps to remain "racially oriented," since I had not thought of that.</p><p></p><p>I'd also possibly debuff humans a little bit: maybe just get rid of the +1 to all defenses perk, since it seems to be there to balance out the fact that human defenses are often going to be one lower. Maybe let them keep the extra feat... since some racials seem to be better than an extra at-will (and this further depends on class), but others don't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pale Jackal, post: 4793067, member: 58878"] I am seriously considering the same thing, though I do think some racials are balanced around the current stat bumps. For example: Dwarven and Eladrin Weapon Training seem to exist to make up for the fact that neither class gets a Strength bump, and to allow them to play Fighter types more effectively. Of course, neither feat scales with tier. I have no idea why Goliaths get excellent Barbarian stat bumps, AND a feat like Dwarven Weapon Training (for two handed weapons) which DOES scale with tier. One thing that I did not think of, though, is how the PHB 2 seems to change is how attributes work. For example: a Dwarf who wants to use an axe as a primary source of damage with PHB 1 classes (Paladin, fighter, ranger, and so on) is at a disadvantage because of his lack of strength, so he gets Dwarven Weapon Training, which partially balances things out. However, in the PHB 2, he could be an Avenger, and thus have an 18 or 20 in Wisdom and still use a maul with Dwarven Weapon Training. I do like your idea that requires one of the two stat bumps to remain "racially oriented," since I had not thought of that. I'd also possibly debuff humans a little bit: maybe just get rid of the +1 to all defenses perk, since it seems to be there to balance out the fact that human defenses are often going to be one lower. Maybe let them keep the extra feat... since some racials seem to be better than an extra at-will (and this further depends on class), but others don't. [/QUOTE]
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