Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Enchanted Trinkets Complete--a hardcover book containing over 500 magic items for your D&D games!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Racial variety
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1307128" data-attributes="member: 8439"><p>unfortunately, the whole idea of drawing a fantasy world as you look does have something to do with racism, bigotry and prejudice. Its not as strong or sinister as those terms have come to be connotated, but it is from the same base impulses. "I am normal, I am the default, if I'm asked to draw a person without reference to race, I will universaly make them my own race, because thats what a 'person' looks like."</p><p></p><p>I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say that you are problably wrong in the second paragraph. If the main artists and editors of the D&D books had been black, or hispanic or asian, there would be many more examples of those races, but there would still be a healthy representation of caucasians. It is the self reference you mentioned <strong>joined</strong> with the constant reinforcement of the media which allows this sort of thoughtless whitewashing of the world. When you have a non-dominant personal expereince coupled with the input of the dominant media, you end up with a more mixed output. </p><p></p><p>The responses to this thread have been very enlightening to me, and I'd like to thank the orriginal poster for broaching the question, even if there's been a lot of dodging of it. My view is that if you want to represent a world, you have to make an effort to activly think outside of the tiny corner of your life, and racially diverse models for both humans and non humans would be a good idea. Its very easy to stick a emotionally charged dismissal lable like "politically correct" on these ideas, but its really no better than calling the original situation "racist" - because once you boil the 'evil' connotation of that word out, it actually describes perfectly the benign mindset you credit for the non diverse illustration style. The unthinking assumption that the entire universe looks like you unless there's a "good reason" for them not to is essentially a racist one, though a mostly benign form of racism. </p><p></p><p>Kahuna Burger</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kahuna Burger, post: 1307128, member: 8439"] unfortunately, the whole idea of drawing a fantasy world as you look does have something to do with racism, bigotry and prejudice. Its not as strong or sinister as those terms have come to be connotated, but it is from the same base impulses. "I am normal, I am the default, if I'm asked to draw a person without reference to race, I will universaly make them my own race, because thats what a 'person' looks like." I'm also gonna go out on a limb and say that you are problably wrong in the second paragraph. If the main artists and editors of the D&D books had been black, or hispanic or asian, there would be many more examples of those races, but there would still be a healthy representation of caucasians. It is the self reference you mentioned [B]joined[/B] with the constant reinforcement of the media which allows this sort of thoughtless whitewashing of the world. When you have a non-dominant personal expereince coupled with the input of the dominant media, you end up with a more mixed output. The responses to this thread have been very enlightening to me, and I'd like to thank the orriginal poster for broaching the question, even if there's been a lot of dodging of it. My view is that if you want to represent a world, you have to make an effort to activly think outside of the tiny corner of your life, and racially diverse models for both humans and non humans would be a good idea. Its very easy to stick a emotionally charged dismissal lable like "politically correct" on these ideas, but its really no better than calling the original situation "racist" - because once you boil the 'evil' connotation of that word out, it actually describes perfectly the benign mindset you credit for the non diverse illustration style. The unthinking assumption that the entire universe looks like you unless there's a "good reason" for them not to is essentially a racist one, though a mostly benign form of racism. Kahuna Burger [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Racial variety
Top