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<blockquote data-quote="Wolv0rine" data-source="post: 1310172" data-attributes="member: 9045"><p>I'd have to mildly challenge calling this racism, even in a soft, benign form. By the very fact that we all live inside of our own selves, we cannot ever truely move past the core concept that we are baseline - because we <strong>are</strong> baseline to <strong>ourselves</strong>. It's not a matter of assuming the entire universe looks like you, it's a matter of yourself being your first, and most primal, core example what a person looks like. There's no lessening of others in this, no unthinking feeling of superiority, primarilly. It's simply a matter of yourself being the first, longest, most permanent core mental image of a human being (with the possible exception of your parents as the first - but by this same token, your parents more than likely bear at least a passing over-all resemblance to you).</p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as altering things on that level, I can't see how that's a matter of experience with the game at all. It's a pretty simple leap to make to come to the conclusion that since people in real life come in different ethnicities that people in Fantasy can just as easily come in just as much diversity, if not much more. I had no "more experienced players" to guide me to this conclusion when I first began playing RPGs, and it seemed fairly self-evident to me. I don't mean that to come across in a hostile manner, mind you. I'm not saying "It was obvious to me, are you an idiot?" or anything.. just saying that I don't understand why such a thing would have to be specifically stated to be presumed. My own campaign world has nearly a dozen Elf sub-races, and while the skin/hair/eye color ranges are pretty specifically set, their specific features aren't. One could just as easilly play a Frost Elf, for example (skin tones ranging from snow-white to light blue) with thick lips, a wide nose, and dreadlocks as a negroid human with the same features. I mean it doesn't say anywhere in the rules that I'm aware of what a Human looks like, but we all have a pretty good idea of the range of appearances that humans come in. It doesn't have to be stated for us, does it? If you want to play an ethnically "different" character - more power to you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wolv0rine, post: 1310172, member: 9045"] I'd have to mildly challenge calling this racism, even in a soft, benign form. By the very fact that we all live inside of our own selves, we cannot ever truely move past the core concept that we are baseline - because we [b]are[/b] baseline to [b]ourselves[/b]. It's not a matter of assuming the entire universe looks like you, it's a matter of yourself being your first, and most primal, core example what a person looks like. There's no lessening of others in this, no unthinking feeling of superiority, primarilly. It's simply a matter of yourself being the first, longest, most permanent core mental image of a human being (with the possible exception of your parents as the first - but by this same token, your parents more than likely bear at least a passing over-all resemblance to you). As far as altering things on that level, I can't see how that's a matter of experience with the game at all. It's a pretty simple leap to make to come to the conclusion that since people in real life come in different ethnicities that people in Fantasy can just as easily come in just as much diversity, if not much more. I had no "more experienced players" to guide me to this conclusion when I first began playing RPGs, and it seemed fairly self-evident to me. I don't mean that to come across in a hostile manner, mind you. I'm not saying "It was obvious to me, are you an idiot?" or anything.. just saying that I don't understand why such a thing would have to be specifically stated to be presumed. My own campaign world has nearly a dozen Elf sub-races, and while the skin/hair/eye color ranges are pretty specifically set, their specific features aren't. One could just as easilly play a Frost Elf, for example (skin tones ranging from snow-white to light blue) with thick lips, a wide nose, and dreadlocks as a negroid human with the same features. I mean it doesn't say anywhere in the rules that I'm aware of what a Human looks like, but we all have a pretty good idea of the range of appearances that humans come in. It doesn't have to be stated for us, does it? If you want to play an ethnically "different" character - more power to you. [/QUOTE]
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