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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mythago" data-source="post: 6211604" data-attributes="member: 3019">Please note that I'm not commenting on what you "should" do in your campaign, I'm just addressing this particular sentiment. Other groups of humans compete for resources, territory, etc. - why wouldn't The People hate those-across-the-river and their strange, barbaric ways? Going back to the Discworld quote, while (as is only to be expected from any multibook series) Pratchett isn't 100% consistent with that - William de Worde makes a reference to his bigoted father extending nasty remarks to people from Howondaland - while the humans don't care much about skin color, there is plenty of bigotry standing in for it, deliberately so. The anti-Klatchian sentiment and cultural conflict in Jingo has nothing to do with the Klatchians' skin color. This is true in the real world, as well; we tend to think of skin color as THE dominant factor in 'race' and people's bigotry, but keep in mind that it wasn't very long ago in the US that being Irish or Italian or Jewish mean you weren't "white". Certainly I'm sure we're all familiar with the long history of seeing people from Over Thataway as being an entirely different class of humans because of their customs or geography.Rambling back to D&D, as I said in the other thread, I suspect a lot of the whole thing with entire races being evil comes from Tolkien's orcs, which are more or less demons and in some variants are actually created by Sauron. So there's not a developed concept of orc children, orc communities or orc individuality; their monstrosity and evil is baked in.</blockquote>

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