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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 8712587" data-attributes="member: 6688049"><p>Then why imply there is mystery what the intent was? e.g.:</p><p></p><p><em>"The name "Nippon"<strong> sounds</strong> like an obvious Japanese analogue"</em></p><p><em>"We know so little about this region that <strong>I don't think we can safely presume anything</strong>"</em></p><p></p><p>Better to be like:</p><p><em>"Right, Nippon is clearly Oerth's Japan. But IMC, or as a revised more respectful conception, I'd redo Nippon as Oerth's Indonesia (it matches the latitude better anyway).</em></p><p><em>And though Nippon Dominion would most obviously include Korea and maybe Manchuria, I'd design it to instead or also be Oerth's Indochinese Peninsula, given its proximity to Zindia."</em></p><p></p><p>Then I'd be like: "Cool, No problem."</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure how you're definining canon here. My chart simply aims to include all "official" (i.e. TSR/Wizards-published) motifs which originate from Earthly cultures and languages. Though with an initial focus on the non-European cultures, since I was inspired and motivated by the Radiant Citadel.</p><p>My use of the word "official" includes any continuity, regardless of whether it's currently 5E canon or not.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, I address the real-world implications of those sentences. A "recently conquered protectorate" situated on a peninsula between "China" and "Japan" says a lot. In 3E, we get another name, Ryuujin.</p><p></p><p>Oerth isn't Earth. Real-world climatological/meteorological science doesn't necessarily matter when it comes to designing fantasy continents. It's like arguing that various fantasy monsters "can't" exist because they're be too heavy to fly or whatever.</p><p></p><p>I appreciate you're aiming for a less hamhanded, more respectful, revised conception of Nippon and the Nippon Dominion. Cool.</p><p>But that goes beyond the purpose of my chart. I'm not adding sections which list how various aficionados have revised and re-interpreted TSR/WotC's depictions of real-world cultures, even if your conceptions are better and more nuanced.</p><p></p><p></p><p>One coherent alternative is that the more proper name of Nippon is Ryuujin. And that Ryuujin is located and shaped exactly as depicted on the official map. And its climate happens to be functionally identical to real-world Japan regardless of its latitude. (Do to unusual ocean currents, elemental vortices, divine influence, etc.) Or (another coherent alternative): its flora and fauna are more tropical, but its culture is still Japanese. Impossible? So are dragons!</p><p></p><p>Pretty cool!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 8712587, member: 6688049"] Then why imply there is mystery what the intent was? e.g.: [I]"The name "Nippon"[B] sounds[/B] like an obvious Japanese analogue" "We know so little about this region that [B]I don't think we can safely presume anything[/B]"[/I] Better to be like: [I]"Right, Nippon is clearly Oerth's Japan. But IMC, or as a revised more respectful conception, I'd redo Nippon as Oerth's Indonesia (it matches the latitude better anyway). And though Nippon Dominion would most obviously include Korea and maybe Manchuria, I'd design it to instead or also be Oerth's Indochinese Peninsula, given its proximity to Zindia."[/I] Then I'd be like: "Cool, No problem." I'm not sure how you're definining canon here. My chart simply aims to include all "official" (i.e. TSR/Wizards-published) motifs which originate from Earthly cultures and languages. Though with an initial focus on the non-European cultures, since I was inspired and motivated by the Radiant Citadel. My use of the word "official" includes any continuity, regardless of whether it's currently 5E canon or not. Right, I address the real-world implications of those sentences. A "recently conquered protectorate" situated on a peninsula between "China" and "Japan" says a lot. In 3E, we get another name, Ryuujin. Oerth isn't Earth. Real-world climatological/meteorological science doesn't necessarily matter when it comes to designing fantasy continents. It's like arguing that various fantasy monsters "can't" exist because they're be too heavy to fly or whatever. I appreciate you're aiming for a less hamhanded, more respectful, revised conception of Nippon and the Nippon Dominion. Cool. But that goes beyond the purpose of my chart. I'm not adding sections which list how various aficionados have revised and re-interpreted TSR/WotC's depictions of real-world cultures, even if your conceptions are better and more nuanced. One coherent alternative is that the more proper name of Nippon is Ryuujin. And that Ryuujin is located and shaped exactly as depicted on the official map. And its climate happens to be functionally identical to real-world Japan regardless of its latitude. (Do to unusual ocean currents, elemental vortices, divine influence, etc.) Or (another coherent alternative): its flora and fauna are more tropical, but its culture is still Japanese. Impossible? So are dragons! Pretty cool! [/QUOTE]
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