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<blockquote data-quote="Charlaquin" data-source="post: 9447355" data-attributes="member: 6779196">Huh? No, it would have proficiency with all Strength checks, be they Athletics or any other kind of Strength check.I don’t understand how you’re arriving at this conclusion. Saves as ability mods would functionally be giving the beholder +5 to every single check it makes with Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma, save Perception checks (which it already gets +10 on anyway). Thats a huge buff!Like… any time you want the monster to make an ability check and not be proficient with it… I don’t know how to explain this further, it’s entirely self-evident to me. Especially since your layout doesn’t actually save any physical (or digital) page space by getting rid of the distinction. Maybe if it significantly shrunk the stat block it would be worth considering if the consolidation is worth the loss in ability check granularity, but both versions have the same space dedicated to showing those stats.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Charlaquin, post: 9447355, member: 6779196"] Huh? No, it would have proficiency with [I]all Strength checks[/I], be they Athletics or any other kind of Strength check. I don’t understand how you’re arriving at this conclusion. Saves as ability mods would functionally be giving the beholder +5 to every single check it makes with Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma, save Perception checks (which it already gets +10 on anyway). Thats a [I]huge[/I] buff! Like… any time you want the monster to make an ability check and not be proficient with it… I don’t know how to explain this further, it’s entirely self-evident to me. Especially since your layout doesn’t actually save any physical (or digital) page space by getting rid of the distinction. Maybe if it significantly shrunk the stat block it would be worth considering if the consolidation is worth the loss in ability check granularity, but both versions have the same space dedicated to showing those stats. [/QUOTE]

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