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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 7046073" data-attributes="member: 6801286">It says a 20-foot radius on the ground. So in my view that's not a sphere, it's a disc. But the question is, can it extend up or down a wall? In my view this depends on the type of surface. "Ground" in this case, refers to a surface that thorns could logically sprout from. So the surface would need to be some form of soil. If the wall is solid rock, but the DM rules that plants can grow from it, then yes, that makes that ground as well. So I would curve the disc up or down a bit. For the sake of convenience, lets say the spell covers 10 ft. on the ground, and another 10 ft. on the cliff. I would allow the spell to continue a further 10ft. up or down that cliff.Likewise, if the Druid was to cast this spell directly at a 90 degree angle on the side of a cliff, I would allow it. There's nothing in the spell that says the radius needs to be completely horizontal. Rule of cool applies here. If using this spell this way makes the spell more fun, and if it seems to make sense, then I would allow it. I would approach the way in which these sort of spells are placed similar to the way players can place and AOE effect in Guild Wars 2. The AOE circle aligns with the terrain the spell is cast on.[ATTACH]81826[/ATTACH]</blockquote>