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<blockquote data-quote="Deimodius" data-source="post: 1945930" data-attributes="member: 14322"><p>I recently purchased Frostburn (an excellent book) and started running the adventure "Raiders of the Black Ice" by Wolfgang Baur in Dungeon #115. While doing so I noticed some discrepancies between the "lite" version of the rules in the adventure, and those in FB. I understand that sometimes things get changed after certain things go to print, but I'm hoping someone (preferably someone from WotC, Dungeon, or even Wolfgang himself) can help me figure out the proper rules, especially where a mechanic was given in the adventure, but not in FB.</p><p></p><p>Specifically I am concerned with the following:</p><p></p><p>1. The "Weather while travelling" chart from pg. 23 of Dungeon issue 115. I see that the categories of weather are slightly different in the FB book. Specifically the Heat Wave and Cold Snap entries were combined on one line, and the "Snow" entry (in the module) was changed to "precipitation" in the FB book (and has a different desctiption of its effects).</p><p></p><p>I also noticed that the "Snow level change" and "Tracking DC modifier" columns from the chart in the module were not included in FB. I have looked through FB many times and I can not find any mention of the affects of weather on tracking. As for snow level, the chart and descriptions of determining snow level in the module are different form those in FB. In fact, in FB the entry for precipitation does not indicate how much snow accumulates.</p><p></p><p>Further, in the module, it indicats how much snow melts in a heat wave, but FB does not indicate this (since it only indicates temperature fluctuations of +/- 10° F).</p><p></p><p>2. Overland movement; it seems the chart for overland movement is different from the chart in the 3.5 PHB. Specifically it gives distances travelled (with no snowfall) as 20' = 15 miles, 30' = 20 miles, etc. which does not jive with the PHB which has 20' = 16 miles, and 30' = 24 miles.</p><p></p><p>Not only is there this discrepacy compared to the PHB, but in the module it states that skis "allow full movement across... snowy surfaces...". If they allow full movement, then a human with speed 30' in less than 12" of snow should be able to go 24 miles, not the 35 miles stated in the chart on pg 35 of the module, unless skis allow _faster_ than full movement.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for any help! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deimodius, post: 1945930, member: 14322"] I recently purchased Frostburn (an excellent book) and started running the adventure "Raiders of the Black Ice" by Wolfgang Baur in Dungeon #115. While doing so I noticed some discrepancies between the "lite" version of the rules in the adventure, and those in FB. I understand that sometimes things get changed after certain things go to print, but I'm hoping someone (preferably someone from WotC, Dungeon, or even Wolfgang himself) can help me figure out the proper rules, especially where a mechanic was given in the adventure, but not in FB. Specifically I am concerned with the following: 1. The "Weather while travelling" chart from pg. 23 of Dungeon issue 115. I see that the categories of weather are slightly different in the FB book. Specifically the Heat Wave and Cold Snap entries were combined on one line, and the "Snow" entry (in the module) was changed to "precipitation" in the FB book (and has a different desctiption of its effects). I also noticed that the "Snow level change" and "Tracking DC modifier" columns from the chart in the module were not included in FB. I have looked through FB many times and I can not find any mention of the affects of weather on tracking. As for snow level, the chart and descriptions of determining snow level in the module are different form those in FB. In fact, in FB the entry for precipitation does not indicate how much snow accumulates. Further, in the module, it indicats how much snow melts in a heat wave, but FB does not indicate this (since it only indicates temperature fluctuations of +/- 10° F). 2. Overland movement; it seems the chart for overland movement is different from the chart in the 3.5 PHB. Specifically it gives distances travelled (with no snowfall) as 20' = 15 miles, 30' = 20 miles, etc. which does not jive with the PHB which has 20' = 16 miles, and 30' = 24 miles. Not only is there this discrepacy compared to the PHB, but in the module it states that skis "allow full movement across... snowy surfaces...". If they allow full movement, then a human with speed 30' in less than 12" of snow should be able to go 24 miles, not the 35 miles stated in the chart on pg 35 of the module, unless skis allow _faster_ than full movement. Thanks for any help! :-) [/QUOTE]
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